Saying Goodbye and The Celestine Prophecy (page 6)

Bona Dea

Derek: Thanks for providing that link.

I guess I do sound a little "enthusiastic". I didn't mean to sound so...I dunno, can't think of the appropriate words but Expatbrit sort of expressed the kind of vibe I was probably giving off with his clever statement.

I was just trying to find out if there was anything to the book. And I am very skeptical about the book, especially considering that in the back of the book is an order form for the newsletter and an audio tape based on James Redfield's interpretation of your astrological data (newsletter costs 29.95 -- that's a lotta steep for a newsletter, and a whopping 49.95 for the tape). I also got a little leery when in the last chapter he begins describing people paying for the insights.

At any rate, I'm off to ride on my blue unicorn to visit Santa at the North Pole. And you got it all wrong Expatbrit...unicorns only come in yellow and blue...anyone tells you different, they are crazy!

Take care all...

Sadie

Robdar

Expat,

Be nice to my unicorn, brother. He bites. Unless you give him a nice sugar biscuit.

Robyn

safe4kids

Sadie,

I have tried some of the insights and I do feel more in touch with things, you know? Like yesterday, I saw a friend in passing that I have been meaning to call for sometime. I felt all morning like I should call her, but I had a ton of housework to do...so, I put it out of my mind. The feeling nagged at me all day, and then last night she called. Weird, huh? I wasn't home, so I don't know why she called but I'll be returning her call in a little bit. It'll be interesting to see what she has to say

Yep, I know what you mean about feeling more in touch. And what a cool coincidence! Now you've got ME curious about what she has to say

Have you guys been applying the insights? How seriously do you take this book? What does Redfield base these insights on?

I've been sort of applying them...mostly I'm just trying to remain aware and figure out how much of it I can accept, what makes sense to me, what works for me, etc. I don't take it seriously in the sense that I'm now a 'follower' LOL coz following is something I don't ever want to do again, but I take it seriously in that I think the insights offer a different perspective into human interaction, one that I find fascinating to explore. As for what Redfield based it on, I've no clue but perhaps others here will.

I've had that feeling of expectation as well and feel pretty cool when I'm aware of coincidences as they are happening especially. I do think that we often can learn from each other and one of the points of the book is that we need to slow down a bit in our daily interactions to take advantage of that learning process. As for the 8th insight (don't feel bad, btw...I have to keep going back to the book and looking them up to keep them straight) it's mainly regarding our addictions to other people...codependency, really. What I got from it was that it's common for us to use other people to fulfill our unmet needs (framework of the book: energy) and therefore we hinder our own growth and cut ourselves off from learning how to be complete in ourselves.

Please understand I am a neophyte with regards to much of this and am not sure how much I'm willing to accept as far as what the book proposes; some of it seems farfetched to me too but otoh I'm content to take what I can use and leave the rest. I can always revisit it later if I choose.

Thanks again for your post; I'm really amazed at the number of responses this thread has gotten and the number of people who are willing to approach things with open minds.

Expat,

Hey, how are ya??

Uh oh..I feel an invisible pink unicorn coming on......

Eh...huh??!

Dana

Ohhhhhhh, I just read the other responses to your post and now I get it. Soooo...that was humor, then?

expatbrit

Dana:

How am I? Hmmm...looking out of my window right now, I see....I seeeeeeee........SIX FRIGGIN' INCHES OF SNOW COVERED IN A NICE THICK CRUST OF FREEZING RAIN!!!!! IF WINTER DOESN'T GO AWAY RIGHT NOW I'M GONNA FREAK OUT, I TELL YA!!!!!

Anyway, my smart arse comment wasn't referring to the book, which I haven't read, but to Funkyderek's favourite argument (and quite a good one it is, too!).

In fact, I've been restraining myself from commenting on this thread because I haven't read the book. As a materialist, I'm kinda curious what it's all about though. Can you give a summary?

Expatbrit

p.s. I have it on excellent authority (a Gallup poll of the fairies at the bottom of my garden) that invisible unicorns are definitely pink.

funkyderek

But, may I ask, why don't you read the book for yourself instead of relying on what the skeptics have to say?

Bacause life's too short. As much as I'd like to, I can't read every book that's ever been written. And the Skeptic's Dictionary usually manages to cut through the crap. I've seen the book myself and read the cover blurb. My baloney detector went off straight away. This has been confirmed by what I've read about it (and not just from the skeptics).

The book, although a work of fiction, makes its own interesting points and provides a different way of looking at reality.

But is it a valid way of looking at reality?

Of course, those who are happy with this reality, should avoid the book. But, do you know anybody who honestly thinks that life as we know it is fine and dandy?

Not many, but I'm wary of any sort of system that promises a better life, especially when it combines "spirituality" with a hefty price tag. (Fool me once, shame on you... etc.)

Having said that, that doesn't mean I'm dismissing the book out of hand (but I won't be rushing out to buy a copy). I just wanted to provide an alternative viewpoint.

Xena

hhhmm I don' think it so much promises a better life...well maybe at the end and I too was extremly sceptical about the "new world order" that was pictured there....some people enjoy draining others of their energy and being co-dependant and will NEVER give that up.

I found it made me stop and smell the roses again....it reconfirmed to me that I need to be a complete person in myself before I am ready to make a commitment to another person...and it made me more aware of the people around me and what how they interact with me....it was just a good book to get me more in touch with myself and my surroundings. I would recommend it for that reason alone.

Expat quit playing with your pink "unicorn" and get the damn book....

Lady Lee

Wow you scared me but glad to read you are moving on not out.

We all need to grasp the opportunities. I truly believe if we don't grab it now circumstances will occur that contrive to give us another opportunity to learn the lesson.

I'm still learning some of mine

(((safe)))

LittleToe

Seems this book was commented on in the recent past, too:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/27/16195/1.ashx

I read it recently, after VeniceIT recommended it to me, whilst in Florida.
I found it to be a refreshing angle from which to view "spirituality". It's nice to be able to take a framework that doesn't claim to be wrapped in anything but fiction, to discuss, rather than the usual works that are categorised as inerrant (by their adherents) and which generally cause knee jerk reactions to a goodly number of ex-JWs.

There were various tenets, which I could easily ascribe to. The way it addresses our development due to the environment in which we are raised, posed some especially interesting considerations, for me personally.

For those detractors who haven't read it, I can't help that comment that that isn't your usual MO, and it completely undermines your comments. Respect, guys... after all, does everything really have to be brought onto the battlefield?

~rides off on white stallion, reading "The Road Less Travelled"~

Edited to add - why is this posted in "Blood, Medical Treatment & Depression"???
ROFL

expatbrit

Xena:

Expat quit playing with your pink "unicorn" and get the damn book....

I don't know....I'm just not sure that I'm quite ready to move on from Jackie Collins....lol

Expatbrit, bringing this to the top so that Dana can't wriggle out of a book summary.

Valis

Eh....yo funkyd...I'm with you on this one, which is why I posted the Mayan stuff....if you want a look at an alternate take on reality go down to the Yucatan paninsula where where people still function as shamans and greet the sun every morning and put it to be every night....where they have a real interconnectedness w/their surroundings..where they live in cinder block houses w/bare necessities that you and I take for granted...and guess what? The Mayans I ran into were happy, smiled all the dam time *LOL*, and didn't seem to give a dam about beeing poor to the point of destitution...And yes I got off the road less traveled and went to the home of the boat captain, Chit or Little Bird, ...he lived w/15 others in this conglomeration of cinder blocks that looked as if were a work in progress, need a room? no problem just go get some blocks and cement and viola!.*LOL*.oh and one small sattelite for TV in their general meeting and eating area. They were all happy and greeted us with open arms even though they didn't have a dam thing except cold beer, good pot, hot hot hot peppers, homemade tortillas, and hellacious ceviche' straight from the day's catch. We gave him rides from the hotel area to his home which was "on the other side of the tracks" as it were several times. Not something the average tourist ever gets to visit and it t saddened me to see it, but reality is just that. Often stark, but glossed over by "pie in the sky"..or the bifurcation of reality into the haves and have nots, whether you are talking about spirituality or otherwise....as I gave most of the clothing, my snorkel gear, magazines, toiletries etc to them at the end of our stay I wondered to myself which one I was indeed...I think self help books walk a fine line between being really helpful and just BS...caveat emptor...Have a good day and BTW little miss outnfree lemme know how your reading on the Alvin Maker books is going.

Sincerely,

District Overbeer of the "Quetzalquoatl" class

Saying Goodbye and The Celestine Prophecy

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