Do You Think Trump Is Done?

by minimus 83 Replies latest jw friends

  • titch
    titch

    Of course many things could happen between now and November 2024. But, what if---WHAT IF----at the 2024 Republican National Convention---the Republican Party, collectively---decides to NOT nominate Donald J. as its Presidential Candidate? Then What ? What's he going to do then? Start ranting and raving, jumping up and down and screaming about "nomination fraud"? Or, will he run as a "third-party" candidate perhaps. Maybe the "Truth Social" Party? On the other hand, what if he IS nominated by the Republican Party to be its Presidential Candidate? I just wonder---who would be willing to run as his Vice-Presidential running mate? I wonder about that.

    I am registered to vote, but NOT as a Republican. If I were a registered Republican, and Michel Pence was listed on the California Primary Election ballot, I would vote for Pence, because I have MUCH MORE respect for Mr. Pence than I have for Mr. Trump.---Best Regards, Everyone---Titch

  • MeanMrMustard
    MeanMrMustard

    Here is an entire panel of lawyers discussing the indictment. Even the Democrat on the panel thinks it's nuts.

    https://youtu.be/I2lgUpOA7ZU

  • TD
    TD

    I made it to the 52 second mark.

    Every law school in the U.S. has a lengthy online article on 18 USC § 371

  • FFGhost
    FFGhost
    who would be willing to run as his Vice-Presidential running mate?

    Keri Lake

    Rudy Giuliani

    Mike Lindell

    Lin Wood

    The QAnon shaman guy with the buffalo horns


  • MeanMrMustard
  • MeanMrMustard
    MeanMrMustard

    Aaaannnd another one...

    https://www.youtube.com/live/tm-E4dyBUhU

    Lol. The judge in this case got her legal training from a firm that had Hunter Biden as partner.. good lord

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Trump is small scale corruption compared with the mess that is policy toward Ukraine, profiteering arms manufacturers, politicians who promote a war agenda in return for bribes, sadism and abuse among wealthily elites and so on. If only there was a way of elevating honourable, intelligent and competent people to the levers of power then almost everyone on the planet would be better off. (Not the 0.1% who benefit from our corrupt system, but everyone else) As it is we have a system that functions almost the complete opposite. Trump is a clown but he’s far from the most malevolent person or malign agent to have attained high office, or to wield power without actually being in office.

  • TD
    TD

    I've been listening to John Lauro's interviews, as he seems to be laying the groundwork for what will be Trump's defense.

    It appears to be (speculating a little) that A. He was following legal counsel in good faith and B. That his efforts were aspirational (i.e. covered by the first amendment) and not criminal.

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman
    A. He was following legal counsel in good faith and B. That his efforts were aspirational and not criminal.

    Haha! I wonder if that will become a notorious euphemism in the future, like being "economical with the truth" and Boris Johnson's "it wasn't a party it was a work event"!

    "Your honour, my client's intent when he turned up outside that bank with a shotgun, gloves and a balaclava, was purely aspirational, not criminal!"

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    I follow Dershowitz’s logic, if Trump sincerely believed the election was stolen then his attempt to overturn the result was not a crime. Or even if there’s a reasonable doubt that he sincerely believed it, then it’s not a crime,

    I think he probably did believe it, lots of people did. It’s a very hard thing to prove otherwise. Are the prosecution mind readers?

    Also the statements from Biden that the Attorney General should prosecute are pretty damning that he interfered in the process, another fatal weakness for the prosecution.

    Convicting a former president in these circumstances seems like a dangerous mistake, but so many dangerous mistakes are being made these days that it is probably what will happen.

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