It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon 2910 Replies latest jw friends

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  WingCommander

  Ok, here's another example of "wokeness":

  Imagine hosting a YT video channel, where one of your main virtual signaling things is championing against an Organization that has hidden and propagated CSA for decades.....while you simultaneously step out away from your wife and children to visit whore houses and dip your wick where it doesn't belong. THEN, when caught and called out for it, gaslight an entire community and claim it's none of their business and shouldn't effect your bottom line: MAKING MONEY. (to spend on said whores)

  That's some real "woke" bullshit right there! The hypocrisy of these fuggin' twats, knows no bounds!
  
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  Simon

  I thought we were here to analyse with a critical eye Lloyd's behavior. I didn't know we were so elevate to judge and generalise the entire world. As someone who knows Lloyd very well I can assure you that him being "woke" is the least of the problems.

  It's relevant because Lloyd uses it to do what he does.

  Lloyd did what he did because he was/is "woke".

  No, like all "woke" people he uses it as a club to beat people. I don't think most woke people really believe a word of it, but they like having control of other people and the ability to silence them. That is why Lloyd is "woke", to get virtue signal points and to feed his flying monkeys their self-righteousness juice.

  I think that 'woke' was originally meant to imply that someone was alert to social injustice (itself a very flexible and politicized term), especially in forms that may not be obvious. The potential for misusing the term and using it as a political weapon should be clear.

  Exactly - and now it's used to impose social injustices. Like many causes, it ends up becoming the very thing it claimed to be against.
  
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  lloydevansparody

  It's relevant because Lloyd uses it to do what he does.

  No it isn't. His political views have nothing to do with what he did/does. I am surprised you say that. Sadly you too fell into this trap.

  they like having control of other people

  That's it's the goal of many people woke and otherwise
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  Simon

  No it isn't. His political views have nothing to do with what he did/does. I am surprised you say that. Sadly you too fell into this trap

  It's not really a political view per se, although it often weaponizes things that have become politicized by certain parties. Saying it's nothing to do with what he did / does is as convincing as claiming "narcissism" wasn't relevant. It's absolutely relevant IMO as it's something he uses to virtue signal, to manipulate people, and to recruit flying monkeys to harass others as a way of controlling and excluding people.

  There is no "trap" here that anyone has fallen into - it's simply an observation.

  That's it's the goal of many people woke and otherwise

  There's a big difference in how people do it and why. Pretending to hold beliefs claiming you care about people is disingenuous. It's like pretending to care about victims of sexual abuse and then contributing to the sexual exploitation and human trafficking industry. The faked "concern" is a very relevant part of the story.
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  lloydevansparody

  Pretending to hold beliefs claiming you care about people is disingenuous. It's like pretending to care about victims of sexual abuse and then contributing to the sexual exploitation and human trafficking industry.

  Sure but this has nothing to do with "wokeness" or whatever word that is. Lloyd would have done what he did even if he wasn't woke. Saying otherwise is just the same as saying he really couldn't master his penis because of his cultish heritage. The message you are passing on is this: woke=cancerous narcissist/abuser, non-woke=virtuous people. I am afraid this is a trap. A dangerous one.
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  MeanMrMustard

  "Woke" is an ideology. It's ultimately a Marxist ideology. It seeks to tear down, through dialectical means, through struggle sessions - but it's all culturally based. It's cancerous.

  But not being woke doesn't mean you are virtuous. It just means you aren't a useful idiot for literally destroying civil society.
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  Thisismein1972

  Woke, cancels people (JW tactics) Woke shuns people, (JW tactics), and more. The very reason Lloyd has turned to wokeness is because he seeks comfort from this ideology as it is just like being back in the JW cult. Oh, woke is a cult.

  Oh, and when Lloyd was caught he used a common woke tactic of calling everyone racist.
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  Thisismein1972

  But not being woke doesn't mean you are virtuous. It just means you aren't a useful idiot for literally destroying civil society.

  Summed up nicely.
  
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  Simon

  Wokeness is a mob, masquerading as "care and concern", but just a mob of often quite vicious and unpleasant people. People who are woke or happy to buy into the jingoism do it in no small part to use the dog-whistle accusations to set the mob onto people they don't like. I believe this is why Lloyd is "woke", and why it's pertinent to his behavior.

  Being non-woke just means you aren't an obnoxious prick due to being woke. You can still be one for other reasons. A little like how not all democrats were KKK members, but all members of the KKK were democrats.
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  lloydevansparody

  I believe this is why Lloyd is "woke", and why it's pertinent to his behavior.

  You lost the plot Simon. There isn't any connection between wokeness and Loyd's behavior. Your political views shouldn't enter this topic at all. You also are struggling to explain why you haven't deleted these off topic comments as you did in the past and you don't do it because you agree with those. This is your house Simon in the end and you dictate the terms of any topics you like. But if we are here to analyse what Lloyd did to his abusers then it surprises me why you didn't moderate them as you did in the past. I don't want to carry on on an unnecessary fight with you and anyone else here. My battle here is against an abuser and a narcissist who caused harm to many victims. I am not interested in educating the world to promote either "left' or 'right' ideologies. That would be my last comment on the matter. Best