Our health-care managers are shit.
And some of our politicans are suggesting they should manage ALL of our healthcare needs -- because the Government is SO EFFICIENT with everything else they do!
Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon 656 Replies latest jw friends
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DesirousOfChange
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Simon
Another great resource visualizing important stats and also how some of them differ between countries:
https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/
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caves
This is one of, if not the best comprehensive compilations covering COVID-19 I have seen on the internet.
If only the media (all media) would/ could unite for the first time to say and show something of this nature and continue doing it through this global crisis then perhaps the hysteria would not be as impactful as it is right now. A pipe dream, I know.
Right now to get information I have to fight through so much other bull when I look up info that its unsettling to say the extreme least. What takes me hours to find and try to put together, is all right here. It is really appreciated.
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Simon
Also, some promising / interesting news coming out of South Korea - they are seeing a marked decline in the rate of the spread with only a few new cases. Their model of quick and easy access to testing and then quarantining people seems to have been effective.
Hopefully other countries can learn from it instead of allowing massive spreading.
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Listener
That's good news Simon and shows how quickly it can be contained with the right action.
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road to nowhere
The entertainment aspect will fade same as the fires, tornadoes floods. Then there will be a new " if it if bleeds it leads"
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Simon
Anyone downplaying this as being overhyped needs to explain Italy.
Their healthcare system has been totally overwhelmed. People are dying. It's not hype - although the media utterly last trust, don't think it's just another "the sky is falling" claim.
Read the reports coming out of Italy - people without the virus are impacted because they are ill with other things and there are no beds. People with the virus can't be treated because there isn't capacity in ICU.
This is why it's so important to slow down its spread, to flatter the curve, so that the healthcare systems might try to cope with demand over time instead of all at once.
It's not "just flu". If it was, when did you last hear of 20+ people on a cruise ship dying or half of a care-home being wiped out because of a flu outbreak?
South Korea and even China took it seriously and worked hard to slow and prevent its spreading. The west seems to be following the Italian model of "it's OK, it's OK, it's OK ... oh shit we're fucked!!". Things need to change and change quickly. It's really not being taken seriously enough.
Some private companies are taking it seriously. When large companies stop their staff travelling and tell everyone to work from home until further notice, it means they take it seriously because they wouldn't take the financial hit if it was "just flu". They know it's better to take the hit than take the bigger hit of being severely impacted by mass infections.
Anything that can be done should be done. That means cancelling things. No one will be losing out because far more things will end up having to be cancelled anyway for far, far longer if they are not and it's allowed to spread too quickly.
Close borders. Close airports. Stop travel. Stop large gatherings. Stop commuting on public transit. Start creating infrastructure to deliver food and essential supplies (medicine, cleaning etc...) to quarantined people. Identify infected people with quick access to accurate testing.
If your government isn't doing these things, they are failing. If they are telling you everything is OK and there is no need for concern, they are lying. If your company isn't coming up with contingency plans, they are asleep at the wheel.
Life is not just going to go on as usual.
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Gorbatchov
@Simon, you are right in everything you say.
It is not an usual situation. Here in the Netherlands, we are an extremely open society, but SARS-COVID numbers are up. We have to isolate to stop the spread. Economic will be down also the next years.
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Phizzy
The U.K now has 456 cases, and the NHS, cash starved for over a decade by Tory Austerity, an unnecessary Political choice, that achieved nothing, apart from an understaffed NHS, without enough essential equipment, including basic protective stuff for Staff.
Add to this our decimated Social Services, and the fact that much caring work is done by elderly relatives, and we have a recipe for disaster of huge magnitude. That is not scare-mongering, it is fact.
The U.K is a mere 16 days or so behind Italy in the effects of this virus, the U.S.A about the same behind us.
The sensible measures, basic commonsense, as outlined by Simon, are unlikely to be seen in the U.K, until it is way too late.
