Excellent posts, Craig and Tom!
AlanF
by larc 42 Replies latest jw friends
Excellent posts, Craig and Tom!
AlanF
Personally I expected for myself exactly what I have received. What I didn't expect and find abhorent is they also DF'd in a sense, my very young children. My family nor anyone in the so called "truth" felt the need to include my children in anything. Isn't it interesting that they feel that they are the ones that have the only way to GOD, and yet they turn their back on children of DF'd parents. Hmmmmm must be the "Christian Love" we all heard over and over and now have experienced.
Leslie
Unfortunately at 11 years of age you aren't thinking about the RULES.
I have never cried or felt hurt for being disfellowshiped. I wish it would have happened a long time ago because I HATE RULES. I just wish I would have never been raised in the cult to begin with. That way when I come across a cousin or other JW family member at the mall or a resturaunt they would actually say hello instead of looking the other way. That is what it's all about you know. Human kindness. Having enough sense to know that speaking to someone out in public isn't going to make you go WORLDLY or interfere with your relationship with the Creator. You know,... the guy who paid for my sins already?
Shunning doesn't always stop when one is reinstated. I was df when I was 19 and then reinstated when I was 21. I walked away when I was 33. During the years after I was reinstated and was said to be forgiven. Many people in the congregation didn't forgive. They thought I was not sorry enough, and I deserved any bad thing that happened to me. In fact my own brother in law didn't let my sister babysit for me so I could work because I had made my mistakes (I got pregnant and had a son) and if my life was hard, I deserved it. I could never figure out why no one could forgive and forget my past. Later when other single mothers came into the congregation, no one could remember who I was. Those other single moms got alot of help from the cong. but I didn't. I was told it was because they had made their mistakes when they didn't know any better (they were worldly) so it was okay to help them now that they knew the "truth". I on the other hand should have known better. Didn't matter if my son needed something I couldn't buy him. I was still being punished.
By the way I was only 13 when I was baptized, it was 1975 and I wasn't given a choice. I was afriad not to because I didn't want to die. Now I am ignored, but I still walk up to people and say hi anyway. Just to see the look of terror that comes over their faces.
Pam
Pamkw, you are too cool. I wish I had the nerve to speak to some of them. I know what you mean about 1975. I got baptised in '74. You know, the year BEFORE armageddon? Maybe I should try to speak up next time I'm out shopping and see one of my old buds.
JR
The first time I was disfellowshipped I didn't expect it at all. I felt that I had sinned and was very remorseful and prayed for forgiveness over and over so I went to the elders to confess my sins. There were plenty of occurences of people getting reproved or just a hand slapping for worse than I'd done, but after I went to the elders and told them my story and said that I was sorry, they disfellowshipped me.
I didn't expect that at all and it ripped my good little witness life apart. If I'd kept on my good witness course I most likely would be a ministerial servant and not as happy as I am now. I wouldn't be married to my current loving, understanding wife. I'd be married to a pioneer that would most likely turn on me the second I had a doubt.
I didn't expect the disfellowshipping, which was the hardest thing. If I had expected it, I might have been more prepared. It was the elders fault though that I'm not a witness anymore. The unfair way that I was disfellowshipped started me and a few other people in the congregation on the downward spiral of independant thinking, freedom, and happiness.
WHO EVER HAS EDITED MY POST OFF HERE, WOULD U PLEASE HAVE THE COMMON DECENCY TO TELL ME WHAT WAS WRONG WITH IT, ESPECIALLY AS I FIND THE ORIGINAL POST OFFENSIVE MYSELF
Quinah check your PM.
There are more replies to this thread on another thread... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/54026/1.ashx
Cheers,
BReal
Hey Larc,
I miss your comments over at tj's thread about marriage - it's turned into a he vs she thing.......naturally, I'm there.
I know some of your young background - raised as a jw, left early, a very wise jw mother.....who allowed you to be a person....not just a jw. You left as a strong, whole, young man .....and have done well. I think you were df'd - but your mother didn't shun you?
I think part of the problem is your experience is somewhat atypical. Much like a man (or woman) who's never felt 9 months of pregnancy, childbirth without any medication, etc. You can have empathy - but not fellow-feeling.
Death of a child would be much the same. A friend of mine was told by her mother "You don't have any idea of how bad the pain is to have one of your children die." The mother knew. Well, the daughter had her youngest daughter die in a car wreck later......and she told me "Now I know."
We know the mechanics of the situation.....but not in-depth. Anyone who hasn't experienced it - really doesn't know it. Well, that's my opinion anyway.
Take care & tell Zaz *HI* - some fine comments on this thread. Thanks to a lot of posters.
waiting
Quinah
Before shouting about it you could have:
You have made a post on another similar topic. Perhaps you are getting confused?
Topic: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/54026/1.ashx
Post: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/54026/781663/post.ashx#781663