True Bible Doctrines part 2

by hooberus 32 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Hamas
    Hamas
    they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them

    This is figurative. Just as Jesus spoke of coming quickly almost two thousand years ago, and just as Jesus spoke about his figurative body at the passover, so this verse to may be speaking figuratively.

    In this way, It appeared to those crucifying Jesus that he was dead, which they wanted to see. However, it only appeared that way to them; as Jesus returned.

  • Hamas
    Hamas

    Also Hooberus:

    The Quran is wrong when it says.....

    If you are to take this sura literally, what right has anybody to say that the Quran is wrong? Or what right has anybody to say that the bible is wrong ? Does it belong to us to really know these things?

    You use the Bible as the basis for your argumentation, but what makes the Bible right and true over the Quran ? Nothing does ....

    You believe the Bible, because you believe the bible. Yet belief is no indication of fact.

  • DJ
    DJ
    The bible is open to so much debate, I think that is why God felt the need to send out another prophet, the final prophet ; Mohammed

    This is exactly what the mormons say about Joseph Smith. Be careful!

    Hooberus, wow....interesting and sad. I suppose it is a works based salvation for a Muslim. No Christ? Mohammed denies the Christ, interesting that Jesus warned us of those who would teach that and deny Him. Antichrist?

  • Hamas
    Hamas

    Hi DJ,

    I would never trust the mormons, never.

    On the subject of Mohammed denying Christ, well he doesn't. The Quran speaks of Christ, and even speaks about a miracle he performed that even the apostles didnt mention !

    Also, remember, the Quran , as Muslims believe, is not the words of Mohammed. It is the words of God, through Mohammed.

  • dedalus
    dedalus

    Such silliness!

    Dedalus

  • DJ
    DJ
    On the subject of Mohammed denying Christ, well he doesn't.

    Hamas,

    "Denying Christ" according to the bible is found at 2Peter 2:1.

    "But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.

    Mohammed certainly denied Christ as savior. love, dj

  • Hamas
    Hamas
    Mohammed certainly denied Christ as savior

    Mohammed wouldn't have mentioned Christ at all If he wanted to deny him.

  • DJ
    DJ

    Hamas,

    That just is simply not true, love!! Many who speak about Christ, deny Him as savior.

  • hooberus
    hooberus

    hamas, the comforter is the Holy Spirit:

    "But the comforter, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things asnd will remind you of everything I have said to you." John 14:26

    Jesus, Christ was really and truly crucified, not just in appearance, or figuratively:

    " He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee, Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again. And they remembered his words," Luke 24:6-8

    "Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things. Luke 24:45-48

  • Hamas
    Hamas

    Hooberus:

    When the Paraclete comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness of me." John 15:26

    The Paraclete is called the "Spirit of Truth" and not the "Holy Spirit

    But the Paraclete, the Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26

    But again, I ask, What is truth? Do any of us know for sure ?

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