guys we are not living in ancient times anymore! what is the point of putting someone to death??? our society should not be based on the idea of revenge but the goal should merely be to provide security.
Texas Windshield Murder Trial Begins
by TresHappy 186 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Cassiline
Realist
Are you aware how much prisoners are allowed to do in prison? I am not trying to make it sound as if you are not inteligent but I am surprised at exactly what prisoners are permitted to do even thought thay have committed violent crimes.
Security vs. the peace of mind that some people are able to have, knowing that the person who raped then butchered their daughter will never be able to again because he/she is no longer able to because they are dead.
I know that the fact that violent offenders are re-introduced back into society and commit the same acts and end right back up in prison for the very same crime sickens me.
Rates of recidivism for pedophiles, serial rapist and murderers are so high, society can not rehabilitate most of these individuals. What are we to do?
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wednesday
For the good of all concerned, some people should not be allowed to continue living.
I don't think this is one of them, it does not matter anyway, she got murder, and here in Texas she can't be put to death for her crime.
i ma glad i do not have to make decisions about this. it is so easy to be fooled. She looked so different when the prosecution cross examined her.
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Realist
cassiline,
in cases where resocialisation is impossible (psychologically abnormal behaviours - which by the way should be treated as illness imo) the offender should be kept in prison until he dies. this should not be done by the state because of revenge but because of a logical weighing of risk and benefit to the society.
that parents want revenge and feel satisfaction if the rapist or murderer of their child is killed is understandable and a strong point in your argumentation but imo revenge should not be allowed in our society. the state should try to give a positive example and not allow hate to flourish. victims of crime should rather be counseled and the offenders be securely kept away from the population.
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SheilaM
guys we are not living in ancient times anymore! what is the point of putting someone to death??? our society should not be based on the idea of revenge but the goal should merely be to provide security.
Realist: It is your attitude that made me have to watch my kids like a hawk to protect them from your "reformed" criminals. It is your attitude that has innocent women being raped and dismembered by the hundreds every year in the US. It is your attitude that places the lives of murderers and people that choose to become criminals above that of the innocents. I wish you would tour a correctional facility then tour the graves, the morgue and visit the victims then tell me how you feel.
As for this case she willing got high, she got drunk and took ecstacy and decided to drive when her friend had driven her to the apartment. SHE KNEW enough to call for help for her sorry ass but not for the poor man she hit. She needs to pay. She had frauded her employers constantly by faking her drug test. She knew the effects of drugs and alcohol in a motor vehicle but you know that isn't the issue the issue is her choosing to save her own ass over the victim. For that she needs to pay and pay dearly.
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Realist
sheila,
i am not advocating to release dangerous individuals back into society. what i am advocating is a change in attidue...get away from revenge and hate to seeing these criminals as what they really are....mentally ill.
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wednesday
. Not everyone that commits a crime is mentally ill, some are just criminals.Some are just evil. Some people do not deserve to go on living.
charlie danilels said, " a short rope, a high tree", that will put a stop to the raping and child abuse and murders.
Liberal shite.
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Realist
wednesday,
evil as in evil spirits does not exist. we define some abnormal and brutal behaviours as evil but in reality such behaviours are caused by deranged brains. these are neural/mental diseases and the "patients" should be "treated" accordingly.
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wednesday
evil as in a criminal. Some people are just evil and criminals and should not be alllowed to continue living if they are a serious danger to others.
Mental illness is something else altogether.
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Cassiline
. we define some abnormal and brutal behaviours as evil but in reality such behaviours are caused by deranged brains. these are neural/mental diseases and the "patients" should be "treated" accordingly.
Realist
If I knew for a fact that a violent offender were going away for life, would also have a hard time while there, meaning no TV, computer, mail, phone calls, no contact with the outside world etc. I would be happy. Yet, I see prisoners of this caliber able to sue because his or her rights were violated. This outrages me. That we as tax payers not only have to pay for their food, shelter etc. but also their court expenses when they sue because of stated rights violations.
Your above statement IMO is wrong. What about the person who kills because they want to join a gang? The person who for the sheer fun of it kills? I do not believe that all people who commit violent crimes are insane or have mental problems. There is too much evidence otherwise.