Why dont you leave....? (page 3)

plmkrzy

Even though the congregations tell everyone regularly that the JWs are a worldwide brotherhood and one K.H. is the same as another regardless of what part of the country or world they're in, it isn't true at all.

For me leaving was easier then probably even the average JW.

I don't communicate any different with my family now as I did when I was active and it is the same for my brother who hasn't set foot inside a Kingdom Hall for 35 years. Intact he shuns them more then they have ever shunned him. They treated him badly on many occasions and that is why he is rude to most of them if they ever bump into each other. Sometimes they might engage in small talk but it is only as a courtesy until they can quickly part ways.

Our family get-togethers are always completely separate from any other get-togethers. Family is strictly family and JW friends are strictly that as well.

But for many it isn't like that. There are some JWs that totally turn their backs on a family member who has "fallen away" and allowed them selves to become “corrupted worldly influences” or in other words, led astray by Satan the devil.

My family was always dysfunctional and so where most of the congregations I attended.

anotheropenviewpoint

capone, Again, I feel ya... Ive been through it.

But think about this (addressed to all)... and Im sure that you still love your fellow man... Do you realize (now look around) do you realize how many lives that you are affecting directly or indirectly feeling this way?

Again, capone,.. I understand the whole family deal, I was ousted myself lets not forget, I went through the motions. This question is focused onto those who's reason is not family... who's reasons are 'something else'... Im sure all of us would like to know what those reasons are amongst us, would we not?

anotheropenviewpoint

Lovely post plmkrzy

pr_capone

My last 2 posts had nothing to do with family. The 2nd one had to do with friends and the 3rd was just being part of something.

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SixofNine

... who's reasons are 'something else'...

I don't think I've come across anyone who learned the dirt on the org and stayed in for any reason other than family. That would be truly bizarre. Certainly no one on this site comes to my mind unless I've forgotton somone's situation.

anotheropenviewpoint

Family, Frinds, Association - people that you care about around you... ok, point taken.

And Six, again, I have been DF'ed for almost 6 years now, i have read many anit-JW books, and Im finding myself returning... family... NO... my family disregarded me when I was DF'ed, they have nothing to do with my possible return. It is of my own standing only.

But then again, Im here, on this board, for open discussion.

SixofNine

And you don't look forward to resuming a relationship with your family when and if you return?

Btw, we also have a very well-spoken woman on this board who believes most earnestly that Jesus speaks to her and thru her. I also know of a man who read CofC when he was fairly "new in the truth", as it were, and he found a way to believe anyway.... but then again, he would have lost his lovely new bride if he didn't. But he sincerely thinks it's a "true" way to worship. I've seen a couple of people online who think they might effect reform in the WT (though I don't think they are active JW's in any sense).

In any case, you are a party of one on this matter, on this discussion board.

Aztec

AOVP, you are being anything but open minded. People stay for various reasons. Perhaps they are married to a believing spouse and to leave openly would cause them more trouble than it is worth. Some may be biding their time. I'm inactive and to completly sever ties would not be good for myself or my son. I'm trying to sow seeds of doubt in my mother. I don't think there's any point bothering with my father but, I am glad that I am still allowed in my parents home. It's not always prudent or pragmatic to cut off all contact with your social structure. At the end of the day idealism may win you accolades but pragmatism keeps you sane. I think pr's posts hold alot of merit.

~Aztec

anotheropenviewpoint

And you know what guys... even though Ive just started on this board... I already think its too interesting to ever leave.

but just as the logo up at the top left says "...everyone welcome" I hope everyone here sticks to that.

hillary_step

Hello anotherpointofview,

Hey hilary, I thought this was a forum... didnt know I had to address SPECIFIC questions. But hey, let me go do that... just for you. :)

I await your wisdom with pinned back eyes. It may have escaped your notice that it was YOU that asked the specific questions around here not me! I have highlighted your question below to remind you.

If you read my post carefully, you would note that I mention the discussion of ‘issues’, not neccessarily questions, and issues which you feel confident enough to present as testimony, so of course you should feel obligated to defend that testimony. It seems pointless to mention it otherwise.

I precis your original post and my answer to it, and would be interested to read your views on my thoughts about YOUR question.

You note:

I am new to the board and have read countless gripes and pokes at "the organization" but I fail to find one interesting question……When I got home I prayed and prayed for HIM to show me a sign as to what I should do... which leads me to now.....Through the gripes,.... Through the pokes and making fun of....Do you feel as though you did learn something while you were there through.... ? ……Since I have been going back, I have been able (when I could not alone under any attempt) stopped smoking (cig and marijuana) stopped drinking, stopped cursing etc............ and to think that I allowed myself to fall into such depressed shame

I also precis my own points:

For example, the Catholics harbor priests that abuse children, they also manage leper colonies and run hospices for those who die screaming in the night, something the WTS could afford to do, but chooses not to. The Salvation Army does a commendable job throughout the world helping the unfortunate within society and expecting nothing in return - a very Christian quality, I am sure that you would agree.
The issue is not really whether the WTS is the correct religion because it helped you to get your life, or my life in order, as this may have happened in some other religious or social scenario. I know at least five persons whose life was saved by Alcoholics Anonymous, but despite the millions of lives repaired by AA, they do not claim to speak for God. It would also mean that all the Hindus and Buddhists who were enmeshed in substance abuse and manage to free themselves, would by your own definition be worshipping a useful God - do you believe that they are?

Do you feel that other religions have any 'truth' in them? If not, who do you feel may be helping the many persons of other religions who testify to similar physical and spiritual healing experiences to your own that they claim went on in their lives after praying to, and attaching themselves to their own particular God. What part does doctrine play in your new-found purpose in life? I am not decrying your experience, just trying to understand how you can view yourself as being *that* different from any other religionist.

Best regards - HS

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