How would you tackle the North Korean problem? (page 4)

jelly

To say NK is simple rearming as a response to America worldwide actions is mindless. NK has been arming itself for years, way before Bush’s time. Clinton tried to buy them off in the 90’s with ~~black mail money~~ an aid package but that only worked for a while. As I stated before we should pressure China, NK’s true master and NK is only a threat to SK. I just had to respond to this idea that NK had simple started to rearm due to Bush’s actions, another wonderful quote from the America bad everyone else good club.

Terry

Simon

We had a programme on recently where a reporter had managed to get permission to do a documentary about N.Korea and was one of only a handful of westerners to travel round.

They were surprisingly nice people. Wary at first and very 'official' looking ... a bit Chinese / Russian communist style but after he'd chatted to people for a while they started to laugh and lighten up and let him film places.

The overwhelming thing that came across is that they were afraid. They saw the USA as aggressive and expansionist and were preparing themselves. I think they have a point.

They have not been re-arming just as a recent thing but from many years ago. They had lots of stories of attocities committed by US soldiers and were prepared to defend their country against it happening again.

JH

Are they funding terrorism?

They are selling missile technology around the world to rogue nations. Now with nuclear capabilities, they could sell nuclear bombs to nations that hate us.

http://hollings.senate.gov/~hollings/press/2003306932.html

To address its desperate economic situation and gripping famine, North Korea has established itself as the world's arms dealer of last resort, selling weapons to those rogue nations shunned by the world community. Today, North Korea is the world's top supplier of arms technology to Syria, Iran, Yemen and Libya - all of which have strong connections to terrorists - and earns as much as $100 million a year from this trade.

searchfothetruth

I don't think the US will try and invade North Korea...too risky...too many US soldiers will die.

They prefer turkey shoots like Iraq.

Simon

And how many arms does the USA and Britain etc... supply to countries? Why shouldn't they do likewise? What's good for the goose ...

Again, a little friendliness and *real* aid with no strings attached where it's needed (if they have a famine) would bear more results than threats and wars ever will.

borgfree

Sounds like deja vu all over again.

Chamberlain's Treason
By Robery Dell

The Nation
March 12, 1938
Vol. 146, No. 11, P. 292-294

Geneva, February 22

The week that began with Hitler's ultimatum to Austria and ended with Anthony Eden's resignation was surely the most important week in the post-war history of Europe. The events of the past five years reached their climax. The successful bluff and blackmail of the fascist powers on the one hand and the incapacity and poltroonery of the Western democratic powers on the other produced a situation in which the British government had to choose between loyal cooperation with France and Russia to save Europe from fascism and adhesion to the fascist bloc. Neville Chamberlain chose the latter alternative. Eden, to his honor, refused to be a party to it. We cannot but regret that he did not make this choice in 1935 when the British government capitulated to Mussolini, but he has wiped out his weaknesses of the last two years by an act of courage which shows that he is made of stouter stuff than some of us had believed. ............

http://newdeal.feri.org/nation/na38146p292.htm

Borgfree

DakotaRed

Clinton made a deal and the North Koreans didn't live up to it.

Bush is hated and has no support for confrontation.

It's time for all the armchair generals from JWD to form a delegation to travel to North Korea and give them all hugs. Initiate a hug fest and they wouldn't have the heart to wage "nuk-you-lar" war.

**** silently slinks back into hiding ****

Simon

Well, some dialog would I think bring more positive results than sending some other people who just wanted to pick a fight.

It's called diplomacy.

War should be for when diplomacy fails, not as the thing we do first to try and get what we want. We're never going to get what we really want if we do that (assuming we want peace). Of course, if people want big arms budgets and so on then it's great but they are not the ones who suffer, who are at the front line.

I'd be much more inclined to support a war if the ones who led it led form the front like they used to. Stick a rifle in George's hand and a helmet on his head and see how keen he is on it then.

core

Actually

How would you tackle the USA problem ? as they are intent on bulldozing any opposition to their plans for world hegemony and they have a history of aggressive actions - not much different to NK so who is going to take them on or is it OK for the US because they are bigger than anyone else

When will the Isle of Man be seen as part of the Axis of Evil? And be targeted by the USA ?( touch of Irony for non UK readers) IOM is small independent island just offshore to UK with a form of self-government. Who determines what is good - bad right-wrong ?

Incidentally much debate in UK papers over Bullying at school - in the real world the role model for bullying is the US and most world leaders (?) fall at GWs feet so what lesson for youngsters - might is right ????

jelly

If you euro's need to understand bullying why not just look at they way you have treated Jews for the past few hundred years. How many synagogs burned in france in the last three years?

Terry of the all euros suck class

How would you tackle the North Korean problem?

Chamberlain's Treason

By Robery Dell

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