Has Justin Trudeau Finally Eaten Too Many Tide Pods? (page 6)

freemindfade

There are two forces at play in politics and belief, without naming the sides in typical fashion, let's just say one is on its extreme is being driven by "hope" and the other on its extreme "fear". If you go too far into either of these its a problem, the goal should be to be centric and based on reality. This reintegrating of ISIS jihadists, to me is the swinging too far to the "hope" side. Hope is a beautiful thing and we should always temper it with some level of realism. Its the same with fear, fear can lead to terrible things with humans and atrocities, still, a realistic, healthy amount, should be involved in your policy.

For instance, maybe you are living the fantasy land of Narnia if you think you can just hope away the fact that these ISIS fighters cling to extremely ignorant and dangerous ideas completely at odds with all of our western values, then proceed accordingly.

JaniceA

I am not sure the degree of terrorism going on in Canada that's ISIS or even vaguely Muslim related. Canada seems pretty open, generally.

Shoot of asking people if they are ISIS or extremist (and I think an infiltrator would lie, anyway) how does one prevent criminals from entering the country when refugees by the nature of their experience often have no or few papers? We let a Catholic doctor in and he molested hundreds of girls. So religion isn't a great litmus test of good character as we all know in this forum.

OTOH, letting known ISIS supporters in would be kind of nuts. Even disenchanted ones still had a mindset that allowed them to believe they could support it. If they are citizens, then I'd think supporting such a group as ISIS would result in prison and a lot of counseling before they could be allowed out.

Ruby456

Canada has an excellent reputation worldwide. I,m pretty certain they will do everything they can to protect you all from ISIS.

freemindfade

Ruby456

I know you won't answer the question straightforward or intellectually, but here it goes anyway...

Yes or no, do you think it is wise for Canada to 'reintegrate' anyone who got on a plane to fight for ISIS and watched as allied soldiers were burned to death in a cage, who got on a plane to go to fight for an organization that sells women and girls into slavery, people who left Canada to fight for a group of people who push homosexuals off buildings just for being gay?

Just keep in mind, this is not about ISIS member sliding back in amongst immigrants, but knowingly being reintegrated, and regardless of them committing a terrorist attack on Canada or not, you are knowingly letting some of the most atrocious people on earth off the hook. It's about the leader of an entire country inviting ISIS terrorists/criminals who fought against their country and western values with the promise of reintegration services to help them,”

Canada:

Commit the most heinous acts against humanity including, rape, torture, sadistic murder, slavery, pedophilia, "Hey welcome home"
Use wrong gender pronoun: "off to jail with you!"

lmao

Finkelstein

As its known there are dire consequences (ie. France) when you are too openly liberal to people's inherent religious beliefs .

Thankfully Canada has implemented a fairly good screening process to newly landed immigrants and so far things have been relatively Ok

freemindfade

As its known there are dire consequences (ie. France) when you are too openly liberal to people's inherent religious beliefs

True, although I fully support all religious beliefs, banning beliefs is no good. That being said, I don't think its wrong to monitor those who hold radical or questionable beliefs and practices and punish them without it being called racism. Also if someone joined ISIS the last thing they deserve is reintegration, they should be reintegrated into the dirt

Finkelstein

Let it be understood though that its extremely difficult to block and screen out people who were actively participating in violent terrorism .

Where and who will be the witnesses, what evidence can be provided without questionable doubt ?

If there something that can be provided to immigration officials, you can expect that they will deny that person entry into the country.

freemindfade

But there are known individuals

Goodale said there are between 180 and 190 with a connection to Canada that they know have travelled to Syria and Iraq, among other locations.
As well, there are roughly 60 foreign fighters who have returned to Canada, about the same number as two years ago.

There is a difficulty when you don't know

Ruby456

I,m convinced governments won't take risks.

freemindfade

I,m convinced governments won't take risks.

hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaahhahahaha

priceless, thank you, better than I had hoped even!

ladies and gentlemen, there you have it

Has Justin Trudeau Finally Eaten Too Many Tide Pods?

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