by Giles Gray 77 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
The Bible refutes Watchtower teaching that Christ became king in 1914.
Biblically speaking, Jesus was enthroned immediately after His ascension. People in the first century were being transferred into Christ's kingdom. As Paul writes in Colossians 12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: Col.1:13-14
For those interested:
A summary of biblical and secular evidence for Jerusalem's destruction in 587 BC can be found in Jack Finegan’s Handbook of Biblical Chronology: Principles of Time Reckoning in the Ancient World and Problems of Chronology in the Bible (Revised Edition, Hendrickson Publishers, 1998).
A classic work on biblical chronology is Edwin R. Thiele’s The Mysterious Numbers of the Hebrew Kings (New Revised Edition, Kregel Publications, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1994; Zondervan Publishing House, 1983; various editions back to 1951).
A comprehensive debunking of the Society’s scriptural claims, along with some secular material, is available at “Jeffro’s 607 pages.” This includes detailed debunkings of recent Watchtower articles:
http://jeffro77.wordpress.com/
Scholar Rodger Young gives proof of 587 BCE as the date of Jerusalem’s destruction:
http://www.galaxie.com/article/jets47-1-03
http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf
http://www.rcyoung.org/papers.html
Seventh-Day Adventist scholar Ross E. Winkle offers these articles:
“Jeremiah’s Seventy Years For Babylon: A Reassessment. Part I: The Scriptural Data”:
http://www.auss.info/auss_publication_file.php?pub_id=755
“Jeremiah’s Seventy Years For Babylon: A Reassessment. Part II: The Historical Data”:
http://www.auss.info/auss_publication_file.php?pub_id=762&journal=1&type=pdf
Another look at the scriptural and secular evidence against Watchtower chronology is the article “Notes on the Gentile Times and 1914”:
http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/part-1-summary.html
Another debunking is: “Refutation of Appendix in Let Your Kingdom Come”:
http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/refutation-of-appendix-in-let-your.html
Watchtower does not debunk 587
So what? They have their reasons and we have ours. Too bad,
TD Because the generation teaching it its current is an ad hoc explanation. --A definition of convenience specifically formulated to fix the predicament the JW's find themselves in today.
It makes no logical sense outside of that context and isn't meant to
Yes I've always found that to be rather selfish. The younger members of the GB are likely to be the ones left with egg on their faces when we eventually have a GB totally comprised of those anointed after "this generation'".*
I know for sure Mr Cook was NOT anointed when Ray Franz was alive. Therefore, though anointed, he is not part of 'this generation'.
So neither are any new GB likely to be (unless particularly old, which is not likely given watchtower's recent propensity to kick out older Bethelite's).
*Unless the Great Trib begins immediately!!
So the Bible refutes Watchtower teaching that Christ became king in 1914.
We knew the org was in trouble when the generation teaching was changed. Any attempt since then to spin the explanation has done additional damage.
WTC is falling apart in huge pieces now. I sincerely regret my decades of support and apologetics. Maybe others on this forum will eventually see why WTC needs to learn to apologize instead of having their followers do it for them.
I sincerely regret my decades of support and apologetics. ~ ThomasMore
DITTO!
The greatest revenge is a happy and successful life!
THOMAS MORE:
You must be referring to the 1995 Generation teaching. That’s what did it for me and I think a lot of people left in the decade after that. I knew right then and there as the article was being discussed that my time in the Witness religion had come to an end.. I did a ‘Fade’ after that so I’ve been Out many years.
This latest ‘overlapping’ generation teaching of recent years sounds so absurd I have a problem accepting it is actually believed by current Witnesses. Maybe they’re just keeping quiet and letting it go in one ear and out the other like other ridiculous teachings.
LHG - Yes, the 1995 change. It shook a lot of B'Lites out of Bethel. Most JWs won't admit the impact of it, but it was the beginning of their end. A GB member said in 1997 that Bethel was diligently working to down-size. Why?, because donations were not keeping up with expenses. Why? Because the R&F were curtailing their donations since the end was not imminent.
Since then, WTC has operated as a business in distress. They are trying to reinvent themselves and finding that the base of support is disinterested. Their many cries of "WOLF!" now fall on deaf ears.
