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This pompous pioneer said 'She took a vow and she must stick to her husband, even if he kills her she'll be resurrected for her faithfulness!"
Victorian Sky.....what a list of stupid comments!
Thing is, this thread isn't just a bout a few dumb people - it's really a mindset that permeates the religion. True, not all jws are so idiotic, but it's so prevalent that it does show the sure results of years of mental and emotional conditioning.
........the answer I got was that, "we haven't fell into apostasy because we're closer to Armageddon..."
Some of these guys make Homer Simpson look brilliant.
someone told me once that jehovah would resurrect the dinosaurs in the new system....
ROFL!!!
One of the things said to me was actually a question a brother asked me out of the blue when we were out in service. He asked, "What would you do if your husband hit you, since women aren't supposed to hit their husbands?" I was taken aback by his question and was dumbfounded, because I couldn't tell if he was kidding or not, so I just said, "Duck". I can think of some other things I could have said now.
You guessed right........it stands for Registered Retirement Savings Plan............what are they called in the States?
Well most people in the States do their retirement savings through a plan administered by their employer. These are generally called 401(k)'s, after the section of law that established them.
Individuals can set up their own tax-deferred retirement accounts, however, and those are called IRAs (Individual Retirement Accounts).
Hey Rocketman!
talking about dinosaurs, this is a true story.
A few years ago we had a visiting speaker, he was giving the talk 'Science or the Bible - Which can you Trust?'
He was one of those wide-eyed, 'isn't it wonderful how we are so blessed with understanding' type of brothers.
So he reaches the thorny issue of the dinosaurs. Gives the usual lines of reasoning, totally ignoring anything that would contradict his outline.
But then, for one brief shining moment, there was a glimmer of a free, independant thought surfacing from the depths of his finely tuned society mind. You have to pity the fellow, you see he was SO sincere. He SO wanted you to believe.
He looked up from his notes and this is more or less word for word what he said;
"You know, most scientists say that the dinosaurs died out millions of years ago but as Christians we look to the Bible for a reliable account of what really happened. It is obvious. The dinosaurs all perished in the flood of Noah's day of course!"
And then he moved on with barely a flicker of a response from the audience. I couldn't believe it!
I have actually given several public talks, including that one, and I know for a fact that even the Society would never put such a claim into print.
I approached the brother after the meeting, told him how much I enjoyed his talk [shame on me], and asked him where he got his references for the extinction of the dinosaurs by the flood?
All he could say was that he remembered reading it in one of the magazines - yeah right!
I couldn't get this out of my head. A couple of weeks later I was having a couple of pints at my local with my brother-in-law Elder.
I brought up this Public Talk and the comments that the speaker had made.
This was my brother-in-law's straight response;
"But the dinosaurs DID die out in the flood!"
I give up.
Nic'
My JW mother once told me, "Reading the Awake magazine for four years would be the equivalent of getting a four year college education!" I swear she said this to me. Unbelieveable.
She once came home from the grocery store and said, "Ya know Steve? I looked around me at the store today, and eveybody was dead." Meaning, they were all as good as dead because 1975 was just around the corner. I'll never forget the self religious pious look on her face as she said it.
A young boy in my congregation who desperatly wanted to become a doctor (pre-1975), was told by the elders, "There will be no need of doctors in the New System". When the boys father pleaded with the elders (I over heard the whole converstion) to let the boy go to school, they countered with,"He won't have time for going out in Service if he goes to college." When the boys father promised he would make the boy keep up with his "spiritual" responsibilties, the elders would have nothing to do with it. Finally an exasperated father told his son, " Well, I guess Tim, we have to do what Jehovah wants." Those bastards. I bet they really got off wielding such power over a family. Well, that was about 1973. If ya do the math, he would have been in his medical practice for better than twenty-five years by now! I've heard he manages a dry cleaning store these days. So much for dreams.
I was to get married (in the Kingdom Hall of course) and I thought it would be nice to have some candles lit for 'mood'. I mentioned it to the Congregational Overseer (his last name was Dick, no joke), and he said he would get back to me. He did, and here's what he said, "We can't have candles in a place of worship, because that has ties to pagan worship." Now, just how freaking stupid is that? Anyway, I promptly asked him how folks illuminated interiors for fellowshipping before the advent of light bulbs? Uh, he got pissed out stromed off. Believe it or not, that response so so stupid and absurd to me, that it began my exodus. It just took a few years.
"We don't knock on people's doors to change their religion." Stupid AND a lie.
"The New World Translation employs the Greek indefinate article to translate verses like John 1:1." Uh, to my understanding there is no such language principle in the Greek.
Every JW believed 1975 was to be the end of this 'System of Things'. You can't find one actice JW who lived through that time today that say's he believed it back then.
"People who leave the Truth and speak bad about it, are demon possessed!"
"No one ever gets disfellowshipped for spiritual disagreements with the Society. It's always some sin like some sex thing or smoking that causes it."
Here's a little claim made by JW's when trying 'spin' their religion to unbelievers who may have heard that people will have family breakups if someone in the family leaves the organization. " JW's don't shun family members who decide to leave the religion". Stupid AND a lie.
"Masturbation is a sin and wrong." OK, then we're ALL gonna get it at Armagedon. LOL!
Many more that I could think of, but I'll stop here. Thanks for letting me vent . . .
Steve
You know, most scientists say that the dinosaurs died out millions of years ago but as Christians we look to the Bible for a reliable account of what really happened. It is obvious. The dinosaurs all perished in the flood of Noah's day of course!"
Amazing indeed......and what gets me is that he said "but as Christians we look to the Bible for a reliable account of what really happened. It is obvious"....then goes goes on to dogmatically assert something like that. What a pity that your bro-in-law felt the same way!
Steve, welcome! I had not seen ya here till now.....some excellent examples!
A young boy in my congregation who desperatly wanted to become a doctor (pre-1975), was told by the elders, "There will be no need of doctors in the New System". When the boys father pleaded with the elders (I over heard the whole converstion) to let the boy go to school, they countered with,"He won't have time for going out in Service if he goes to college." When the boys father promised he would make the boy keep up with his "spiritual" responsibilties, the elders would have nothing to do with it. Finally an exasperated father told his son, " Well, I guess Tim, we have to do what Jehovah wants."
This example is an excellent one of their totally Pharisaic control over people. I imagine they really got off on a power trip on this occasion.
Sometimes the quote thingy doesn't wanna work.
