It's funny how many superstitous ideas float around the JWs. I remember even as a kid thinking how stupid the idea was that if one person was screwing up that God would punish everyone around them until they figured out (with no hints from God) what the wrongdoing was.
Low Meeting Attendance Means Wrongdoing!
by Englishman 39 Replies latest jw friends
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Phantom Stranger
Apparently conventions in Englad ARE the place to pick up girls, as opposed to the conventions I attended in the states...:)
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FlyingHighNow
In all the congregations I attended, six to be exact, this is the way the story went:
it wasn't the wrongdoing that thwarted Jehovah's spirit. What I always heard was that if wrongdoing was going on and it was known by the elders, but ignored by the elders, then Jehovah would supposedly withdraw his spirit from the congregation. You know, kinda like that priest in the Bible that allowed his sons to commit fornication in the temple with the temple prostitutes, what was his name? The one who fell off the wall backwards and died?
Tent accomodations and 100 disfellowshippings? You know, Brits tend to have the rep, I'm sure it's undeserved, of being undersexed and boring here in the USA. I never did believe that stereotype. I really don't believe it now!
Heather S.
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wannaexit
Englishman,
you brought up something I completely forgot about.
When I was a kid a remember often older ones saying that if there was a wrong in the congregation Jehovah would withhold his holy spirit from the whole congregation and there would be little growth.
Did we really believe this?
wannaexit
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rocketman
Hi Heather,
Yeah, that was Eli.
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FlyingHighNow
Thanks, Rocketman and hi to you, too. That was the first song I ever heard by Elton John(early 70s). I think my fave by him though is Grey Seal.
Heather S.
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minimus
Anytime a drastic number change happened, it was a "sign" that some sin was going on somewhere, somehow in the congregation. If the elders had no clue, they started giving talks about how one could grieve the holy spirit. This would usually continue until someone would confess that they committed fornication or masturbated or did some other secret sin. Then the elders would feel the spirit came back. If the spirit came back only a little bit, Jehovah and Jesus were trying to tell us, more undercover work was needed to be done by the elders.
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FlyingHighNow
My opinion was that the warmth and love in a congregation was more of an indicator of Jah's spirit in a cong. If you didn't see enough love amongst the members then it meant Jah's spirit wasn't there. To me anyway.
Heather S.
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minimus
Heather, if THAT was the criteria, guess what?
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metatron
by this logic, if we all went to meetings and assemblies and whacked off or secretly smoked
could we wreck attendance?
metatron