What's next?

by lastmanstanding 77 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Duran
    Duran
    Just trying to work through some of your definitions here.
    Are you assuming that the Last Day, the 1st Resurrection and the Rapture are all the same event?

    LOL! Not my definitions, I used what was said in the Scriptures and Rapture was not one of them and neither is your silly chart.

    Jesus is the one that said he will resurrect them on the 'last day'. John 6:39,40,44,54;11:23,24

    Also, John said that the souls that he saw that had been executed for their witness they gave for speaking about Jesus and God and those that did not take the MOTB, that when they come to life to rule for the 1,000 years, that that is the first resurrection. Revelation 20:4-6

    So you tell me, when does the 'last day' arrive/begin?

    There will be the resurrection of “the dead in Christ” at the Lord’s return (1 Thessalonians 4:16)

    How many times does the Lord return, two or three times?

    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 occur before or after the GT?

    Does 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 occur before or after the GT?

    Does Hebrews 9:28 occur before or after the GT?

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze

    Duran you are cherrypicking and ignoring dozens of Scriptures that I pointed out showing Salvation to be a past tense event for Church-Age believers. You can't change that .... ever. Gal. 1: 8&9 says that if you preach a "good news" that the apostles didn't preach, you are cursed.

    This "silly" chart is basic theology 101.

    The Six Basic Doctrines of Christianity | Fountain of Life

    Why not just obey Jesus and get born again first before deep diving into end-times theology? If you'll do that, the Holy Ghost will guide you onto the ways of truth. Surely you don't have a problem with allowing the Spirit of Jesus into your mind, heart and anywhere else he wants to reside within you.... do you?

    I've noticed a common theme with talking to (also living with, raised by, and surrounded by) heretics for much of the past 50 + years. They all seem totally focused on proving that they have some special knowledge that, in their opinion, Christians vitally need. But, they are totally unconcerned with their own Salvation.

  • Duran
    Duran
    Duran you are cherrypicking and ignoring dozens of Scriptures that I pointed out showing Salvation to be a past tense event for Church-Age believers.

    How is that your reply to what I asked you...

    Rapture aside, I just want to know what your answers are to these questions.

    1. How many times does Jesus return, two or three times?

    2. When does this 'last day' begin on your chart?

    [23 Jesus said to her: “Your brother will rise.” 24 Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.”]

    3. Does Jesus descend here from heaven before the GT or after?

    [16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.]

    4. Does the revelation of Jesus from heaven occur before the GT or after?

    [7 But you who suffer tribulation will be given relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels]

    5. Does the 'second time that he appears' occur before the GT or after?

    [28 so also the Christ was offered once for all time to bear the sins of many and the second time that he appears it will be apart from sin, and he will be seen by those earnestly looking for him for their salvation.]

  • lastmanstanding
    lastmanstanding
    When it gets dire, the nonsense bickering will end abruptly.
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/02/politics/us-warships-middle-east-brace-iranian-retaliation/index.html

    The King of the South prepares for WAR. He rides his White Horse but his time he knows is now short. He has battled now for well over a century to dominate the planet in full, to “complete his conquest”. Christ said to Pilate, “you would have no authority unless it was granted to you from above”. Rome tried, he came to nothing. So to the King of the South will fail.
    Almighty God, who is the Alpha and the Omega, the one who IS, who WAS and who is COMING and who lives in unapproachable light, whom only Jesus is allowed to see “in the bosom position”, this God will prove that HE lives outside time, he is the past, the present and the future. He has told what is to happen, for to HIM it has already taken place.
    Yes, I’m nuts. But just nuts enough to tell you that the US bond markets are now rallying and rates are dropping. The inversion of the short and long ends is normalizing as it does prior to a recession. The markets are beginning to fall and the house of cards, the massive US Wall St Ponzi scheme is ending. Unemployment is rising and deficit spending to create government paid jobs to mask the problem is wiping out the next generation.
    Next week is going to jolt your 401K. Sit up and take notice.
  • Duran
    Duran
  • Duran
    Duran
    The inversion of the short and long ends is normalizing as it does prior to a recession. The markets are beginning to fall and the house of cards, the massive US Wall St Ponzi scheme is ending.

    Dow plunges more than 1,000 points amid U.S. recession fears (msn.com)




  • ThomasMore
    ThomasMore

    The market has always had cycles of peaks and valleys, but these began to be closer together when retail buyers gained access to direct trading, eliminating a flesh and blood broker who would act as an intermediary. Volume trading quickly went parabolic as retail and institutional investors gained instant access, then came after market trading.

    New products offered by brokerages have over-leveraged the market, making peaks and troughs more intense stoking volatility. See the history of the 2008 crash.

    I am not saying this is an indicator of "the time of the end". I think that more access without much needed trading rules has created a violently rocking market that most retail investors no longer trust. "It is rigged" is a common criticism among such investors. The SEC could stop congressional members from insider trading, but they will not. Insider information is a primary incentive for being in congress. Show me a member of the House or Senate who was in worse shape financially after serving, and I will send you a picture of the Bigfoot that lives in the woods behind my home wearing a smoking jacket.

    Long positions in the market are risky. Ask Warren Buffett how much he has in 6-month T-Bills.

  • lastmanstanding
    lastmanstanding

    ThomasMore: very excellent post. You are 100% correct. I am building a short position. But when the kucca hits the fan and my short position makes me a bunch of money, most likely I don’t get to spend any of it.

    The moves in the market that I highlight are as you say not an indicator of “the end”. No more than “wars and rumours of wars” as Jesus even threw cold water on that baloney when he said “the end is not yet”. Jesus dismissed all this nonsense.

    What I am pointing out is that what we see now is just the beginning of something important that will affect everyone. So I signal the complacent who think stuff is just going to be going as it always has. It will not.

    USA has been absorbed fully in its attempt to “complete his conquest” and time is short such that USA is making some desperate moves, one such being the destruction of Nordstream. This action has really made the Germans angry. But they are a vassal now, and can’t say boo.

    Readers may laugh at the notion that the prophecy of Daniel is going to work out as is written. But they will not ignore the things that are starting which will wreck their party.

    The time left for the USA to conquer what remains out of their “hand”. Which means they will become more desperate, and destructive. Stuff gonna happen and it’ll blow your mind.

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