WHY ALAN FRAUDBACKER IS DOOMED!

by You Know 90 Replies latest jw friends

Yadirf

I thought you might half-way be sincere...and time prevented my quick response...but seeing the vitriol you've directed at my good buddies, WASA, Riz and Alan, I am not about to accommodate your inquiries, now.

But of course you’re not saying that if you didn’t have that excuse that you WOULD HAVE answered my sincere questions (3 parts actually, not 4).
So I give them a little taste of their own medicine (which I notice is about the same stuff you yourself dish out) and that makes me the villain does it? Once again the ole sayin’ holds true “Birds of a feather …”
I've a question for you-
Why do you have a padlock on your emailbox?
Others in the forum do as well, but none have asked me
the sort of morbid kuriosity kwestions you have.
After you refuse to answer a question I posed to you … you have the gall to request an answer out of me??? Well, just to keep from being like you I guess I’ll answer your question. Actually I think it should be fairly obvious as to why some persons don’t want to make their email addresses available to every would-be advertiser that might want to use such address for their own selfish purposes. Would you accuse me of having a like purpose in mind with regard to information that you might have divulged about yourself?
And why do you consider my questions to be of a morbid nature? Yes, the having taken another persons life is the height of seriousness … but that doesn’t mean that it HAS TO BE a taboo subject, unless you prefer it to be … and I have no problem with that as it's your right.
Why didn't you send me those personal questions to my email box which is open and listed in my profile, instead of asking me in this public forum? That way, I would've gotten to find out YOUR email address.
Doggoned good question! I guess that because the great majority that post here are your friends anyway I figured you might not feel reluctant to tell what you learned from the experience … if there was anything that you would have done differently considering it from hindsight.
Hmmm, why do I think your email may be a '.hotmail.com' address?
I haven’t the slightest idea what you are talking about. What sort of address is that?
When asking your questions, your appearance of pleasantness soon turned stale to sour to downright rancid.
That doesn’t make any sense at all. “When” … you mean *while* I assume … so while, or at the very time I was posing the questions my “appearance” changed three time over??? Still don’t make sense!
Now, you can go to Heck.
Are you right sure that wasn’t your sentiments to begin with?
BTW, that's hardly a dirty word ("Heck") ... what are you tryin' to be so nice to me for?
Yadirf
Yadirf

To: Goatless Alan
It's pretty clear that you have no reading comprehension for the Scriptures at all. There is no comparison between what Moses did and Tallyman's situation.
I didn't claim that there was a comparison between what Moses did and Tallyman's situation. Tallyman himself was the one making the parallel. He did so in the question he was asking /You Know:
"Boobie, do you view Moses as being a MURDERER?"--Tallyman
Those were Tallyman's words, not mine! Now, what was that you were saying about reading comprehension?
It is a measure of your ethical deadness that you refuse to understand these things. You refuse simply because in your narrow little disfellowshipped JW mind, giving any credit at all to an outspoken JW critic is A Very Bad Thing. In short, you apply double standards. Far from being a rude, smart-butt pawn, you're a lying, dumb-ass hypocrite.
1) There you go ... blathering on and on, and you haven't even understood that it wasn't I that claimed that there was a comparison between what Moses did and Tallyman's situation. It just goes to prove that you're a blatherskite, deluxe. That's one thing you apparently specialize in, Goatless Alan.
2) I'm not disfellowshipped, as you insinuate. Plus, I'm still addressed as "brother" ... even by those at Bethel.
3) You say: "giving any credit at all to an outspoken JW critic is A Very Bad Thing [to Yadirf]." Well, we know that's not true because I happen to be a "critic" myself. Is there no limit to your exaggerations!
4) I do NOT apply double standards. And I'm not "a lying, dumb-ass hypocrite". What I've noticed about you is that just about everyone that disagrees with you is a "liar". I've read your posts for over a year now, and have come to know that you can't carry on a logical discussion without resorting to calling your opponent names. You are an ill individual, in need of a mind doctor ... one not of your own choosing. I hope you don't wind up killing yourself, Alan ... I sincerely mean that. Of course you think that you're not in the least bit mentally ill ... that's why as you age you could become a potential danger to yourself. Your life revolves around the hope that you will see the demise of the WTS. You are living a hopeless dream ... not even the upcoming World Government (8th King) will be able to eradicate true worship from the earth.
Take care of yourself, Alan. I've had fun playing with you, but now I realize I shouldn't be cutting up with you.
Yadirf
larc

Hey Friday,
What's this eight king business? Does it have to do with two deck Black Jack?
Actually, I really don't want to know. If you pull 10 paragraphs of information off a CD and post it, I won't read it.
Farkel

Friday speaks:
: I do NOT apply double standards. And I'm not "a lying, dumb-ass hypocrite".
You left the WTS society 26 years ago by your own admission. You are inactive. You don't do what they tell you you need to do to gain God's favor. You disagree with some of their doctrines. You don't go to their meetings nor engage in their field-service (life-giving) activies. You debate (hahahahah!) "apostates" on the internet despite their insistence that those loyal to them should not do that or God will execute them. Yet, you vigorously defend them. Yeah, you're a lying, dum-ass hypocrite, alright. And more.
: What I've noticed about you is that just about everyone that disagrees with you is a "liar".
"Just about" everyone of them are.
: I've read your posts for over a year now, and have come to know that you can't carry on a logical discussion without resorting to calling your opponent names.
I've read Matthew 23 for about 45 years now and noticed the same thing.
: You are an ill individual, in need of a mind doctor ... one not of your own choosing.
You mean a "doctor" like you, who can make such brilliant diagnoses as that?
: I hope you don't wind up killing yourself, Alan ... I sincerely mean that.
Well one good way to prevent that is to suggest it, huh? Alan has never even mentioned that idea, but you just did. Playing your silly juvenile mind-games again, you senile old coot?
: Of course you think that you're not in the least bit mentally ill ...
Friday reinforces and reiterates the thing that he "doesn't" want Alan to become and that Alan has never even hinted about. Subtle as a thermo-nuclear device, Friday.
: that's why as you age you could become a potential danger to yourself.
More subtle "reinforcement" from "helpful" Friday.
: Your life revolves around the hope that you will see the demise of the WTS. You are living a hopeless dream ...
Alan is MY friend and we've discussed this matter at length for over four years. He has ALWAYS stated that he is convinced the WTS will always be around, even if it is greatly reduced in membership. He is not interested (nor am I) in its "demise" (death), but rather in its shaping up with the way it abuses its followers. I know this for a fact, because Alan and I ARE friends. You are talking out of your ass, because you and Alan are NOT friends. You should try becoming friends with him, and only THEN would you know what he REALLY thinks, instead of making crap up like you just did. You had your chance several years back, btw. He gave you his: address and phone numbers, because you, in your infinite wisdom called him a coward. He then asked you to do the same for him. You gave him a bogus phone number to some sheriff in Texas that you knew. You laughed about it. You taunted him about it, yet HE was honest and straightforward and you were the bold-faced LIAR and proud of it, too! Perhaps you weren't on your current medication then, I don't know. But I do know that is exactly what you did and you did that without shame. Alan was TOTALLY honest and open with you and you were a coward about your identity and a liar. "What do JWs have to fear from apostates," you asked me on the YK thread. A LOT! You've proved my point by your past conduct. What would you have to fear by revealing your identity and phone number from someone who had ALEADY revealed his identity and phone number to you and about ten thousand other lurkers?
: not even the upcoming World Government (8th King) will be able to eradicate true worship from the earth.
Dream on, Friday.
Farkel
Yadirf

To: larc
Actually, I really don't want to know.

That's real bright of you, larc. Any other way I can be of service to you? Have you ever considered the possibility that the reason that you don't know nothin' might very well be because you "don't want to know"?
Yadirf
Yadirf

And Farkel speaks:
instead of making crap up like you just did. You had your chance several years back, btw. He gave you his: address and phone numbers
Listen Farkel, there happens to be those who have CD copies of the posts that were made on the old H20. To begin with I haven't been posting on the Internet for "several years" (only about 13 months). Next, AF never offered, much less "gave" me his address and phone numbers. As usual, you accuse me of being senile when you yourself can't remember what happened only yesterday. Of course you may be "making crap up".
Alan is MY friend and we've discussed this matter at length for over four years. He has ALWAYS stated that he is convinced the WTS will always be around,
I have seen posts of his that apparently you haven't.
Perhaps you weren't on your current medication then, I don't know.
Now that was hateful, Farkel. No I wasn't, but I realize now that I should have been if I had only known what was the matter with me.
What would you have to fear by revealing your identity and phone number from someone who had ALEADY revealed his identity and phone number to you and about ten thousand other lurkers?
You are making a fool of yourself, Farkel. Like I said, there are those who have the records on CD that will show you that Alan never revealed his phone number to me. Insofar as his identity goes, his biography in the H20 archives (which Jason of J20 oversaw) revealed that.
: not even the upcoming World Government (8th King) will be able to eradicate true worship from the earth.
Dream on, Friday.
That's no dream, Farkel. You're not too swift regarding Bible symbolism etc. ... if you had spent your time studying the Bible instead of fighting the WTS you would be able to relate to what I could tell you. But, as it is you're a spiritual infant.
Farkel
Good nite, Farkel.
Yadirf
Farkel

: You are making a fool of yourself, Farkel. Like I said, there are those who have the records on CD that will show you that Alan never revealed his phone number to me. Insofar as his identity goes, his biography in the H20 archives (which Jason of J20 oversaw) revealed that.
Don't think so, Friday. His bio in the H20 archives has nothing to do with the fact that he DID reveals his identity to you and everyone else on H20. You challenged him to come forward, and he did. He made the same challenge to you and you lied.
I'll ask him about this, and we'll hear what he has to say on the matter, ok. If I'm mistaken, I'll humbly admit it. If you are mistaken, will you?
Farkel
larc

Friday,
That was right Christian of you to tell me I don't know anything. Of course, that is an assertion on your part, because you don't know me well enough and therefore you do not have enough empirical information to assess my knowledge base. In other words, your remarks were childish, and show the depths of you immaturity or shallowness or both.
You can fire up a CD and fill the board if you want, but I am not interested in your nonknowledge of supposed Biblical interpretations and thrilling future events. I would rather spend my learning time on something that is reality based, not based on fanciful, wishful thinking. I have read enough long winded threads where the author uses the Bible as a giant Rorschach Test. (By the way what is a Rorschach test oh knowlegeable one?) Of course, only you have the key to the scriptures, and I am missing out on the chance of a lifetime to be able to learn from you. As the great philosopher, Clint Eastwood said, "You are a legend in your own mind."
Yadirf

Don't think so, Friday. His bio in the H20 archives have nothing to do with the fact that he DID reveals his identity to you and everyone else on H20.

AF'identity had nothing whatsoever to do with the thing, Farkel. The question was whether or not "Friday" was the same person as /You Know. He had no reason to reveal his identity to me, even if I hadn't already known what it was.
You challenged him to come forward, and he did.
Like I said, that's not true ... your mind runneth over with confusion.
I'll ask him about this, and we'll hear what he has to say on the matter, ok.
There's no need to embarrass yourself, but if you must go ahead. He'll have to level with you, because as I said it's all recorded on CD.
If I'm mistaken, I'll humbly admit it. If you are mistaken, will you?
Of course you will, Farkel. Sure I would, you know me better than that.
Yadirf
Farkel

Friday,
You are just plumb crazy and here is why:
: AF'identity had nothing whatsoever to do with the thing, Farkel. The question was whether or not "Friday" was the same person as /You Know. He had no reason to reveal his identity to me, even if I hadn't already known what it was.
I never brought up the charge that you and You Know were the same person.
As I said, you must be senile.
Farkel
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