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LittleToe

SLH:

I am firmly of the belief that religion truly is the opium of the masses and appeals to those in pain or with some hole in their life - the loss of a loved one or the breakdown in a relationship. Why would someone with a fulfilled life fall for this crap?

Ermmm....
That would be your considered opinion, huh?
Seems a bit limited, seeing as there are a few here who are religious and don't fit into those molds.

A&F:

According to my Christian beliefs, you have have both chosen Satan's side.

I would suggest that it's not your place to state that

Bradley:

Religion is poisen.

Is that a perfume?

AwakenedAndFree

(((((( Dear Little Toe))))),

You said:"A&F:
According to my Christian beliefs, you have have both chosen Satan's side.
"I would suggest that it's not your place to state that "

I follow the Scriptures:

MATTHEW 16:21:" From that time forward Jesus Christ commenced showing his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the older men and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised up."NWT

MATTHEW 16:22:" At this Peter took him aside and commenced rebuking him, saying: Be kind to yourself, Lord; you will not have this [destiny] at all."NWT

MATTHEW 16:23:" But, turning his back, he said to Peter:"Get behind me, Satan! YOU are a stumbling block to me, because you think, not God's thoughts, but those of men."NWT

JAMES 4:17:"Therefore, if one knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him."NWT

Christian Love,

AAF

Edited to add: MATTHEW :16: 21,22,23

LittleToe

A&F:I stand by my comment. You are still in no position to judge.
I don't think I need to throw any texts around to make my point, do I?

Incidentally, why are you quoting the NWT, in that fashion? It's an awful translation.

Meanwhile, every blessing

AwakenedAndFree

(((((Dear Little Toe)))))

You said: A&F:

"I stand by my comment."

AAF says:You are free to express yourself.

"You are still in no position to judge."

I said:" "According to my Christian beliefs.."

PROVERBS 21:3:" To carry on righteousness and judgement is more preferable to Jehovah than sacrifice."NWT

"I don't think I need to throw any texts around to make my point, do I?"

My Christian Faith and Beliefs are based entirely in the Holy Bible. I rely on the Bible's counsel when I preach to people. It is the right thing to do.

1 CORINTHIANS 2:15,16 (15) :" However, the spiritual man examines indeed all things, but he himself is not examined by any man.(16):" For "who has come to know the mind of Jehovah, that he may instruct him?"But we do have the mind of Christ."NWT

"Incidentally, why are you quoting the NWT, in that fashion? It's an awful translation."

ROMANS 14:4:"Who are you to judge the house servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for Jehovah can make him stand."NWT

Christian Love,

AAF

darkuncle29

Dear God

Dear God, hope you got the letter and...

I pray you can make it better down here

I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer

But all the people that you made in your image

See them starving on their feet

'Cause they don't get enough to eat from

God,

I can't believe in you

Dear God, sorry to disturb you but...

I feel that I should be heard loud and clear

We all need a big reduction in amount of tears

And all the people that you made in your image

See them fighting in the street

'Cause they can't make opinions meet about

God,

I can't believe in you

Did you make disease and the diamond blue?

Did you make mankind after we made you?

And the devil too!

Dear God don't know if you've noticed but...

Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book

And us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look

And all the people that you made in your image

Still believing that junk is true

Well I know it ain't, and so do you, dear God

I can't believe in

I don't believe in

I won't believe in heaven and hell

No saints, no sinners, no devil as well

No pearly gates, no thorny crown

You're always letting us humans down

The wars you bring, the babes you drown

Those lost at sea and never found

And its the same the whole world 'round

The hurt I see helps to compound

That Father, Son and Holy Ghost

Is just somebody's unholy hoax

And if you're up there you'd perceive

That my heart's here upon my sleeve

If there's one thing I don't believe in

It's you

Dear God

--XTC

AwakenedAndFree

PSALMS 8:3:" When I see your heavens, the works of your fingers. The moon and the stars that you have prepared."NWT

PSALMS 8:4:" What is mortal man that you keep him in mind, And the son of earthling man that you take care of him?"NWT

PSALMS 8:9:" O Jehovah our Lord, how majestic your name is in all the earth."NWT

PSALMS 9:1:" I will laud [you], O Jehovah, with all my heart ; I will declare all your wonderful works."NWT

PSALMS 9:2:" I will rejoice and exult in you. I will make melody to your name, O Most High."NWT

PSALMS 31:3:" For the sake of your name, you will lead me and conduct me."NWT

PSALMS 14:2:" As for Jehovah, he has looked down from heaven itself upon the sons of men, To see whether there exists anyone having insight, enyone seeking Jehovah."NWT

Christian Love,

AAF

fearnotruth22

AND YET I still love and bless the lifegiver because he has given ME Life.

And I am also greatful to him for all of the good things that he has given me.

Amazing

Hi AAF,

The problem with the entire discussion so far, is that the Bible is being used as if it were a divinely written book that is transmitted to humans to help us to be reconciled with God.

The modern day western Bible used by most Christians, is a Roman Catholic book that was modified somewhat by eliminating seven books from the Douay version. The Roman Catholic Church holds and maintains all of the older and important manuscripts used to compile the Bible. Yet, other books of the Bible, used by eastern orthodox Christians are not read or even known about by western Christians.

The Bible is clealy a work of men, and about men as they think they perceive and relate to God. It contains good literature, poetry, history, and inspiring thoughts ... but, in all honesty we cannot factually charge it as a work of God. It may be, or may not be, or partially be the work of God ... we just don't know ... and until God himself makes it clear to us, it would be presumptuous to assume otherwise. The truth is, we have no proof or direct evidence that the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, the Book of Mormon, or other so-called "Holy" books are from any God or gods.

Therefore, all of our assumptions about God's will, intentinos, creations, or relationships are uncertain. All the wishing, belief, and blind faith in the world will not make one bit of difference. We must live our lives the best we can and hope that someday God, if he exist as we perceive him, will fully reveal himself and his purposes for us ... and most of all explain why we humans have been totally ignored by him.

To me, Jesus Christ himself is the best example of what we might do to reach God. While much of what is written about Christ may or may not be true ... the concept of who he is as a humble, good, kind, self-sacrificing and loving person who did not put up with religion is inspiring to me ... and gives me some hope that maybe, just maybe God does care. Beyond that intellectual honesty demands taking a wait and see attitude.

Jim Whitney

Blueblades

AAF,I agree with Amazing.This whole discussion is a leap of faith and predicated on the belief that the Bible is the inspired Word of God.

Blueblades

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