Trump Tariffs started today, Some Countries Caved in early morning.

by liam 111 Replies latest social current

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    “America you are being governed by a clown and all y’all pretending this insanity makes any sense are showing yourselves up big time. Power is slipping away in real time as countries round the world make other arrangements that don’t rely on the whims of a madman and his enablers.”

    Uhhh… No. America has been ruled by Globalist scum. Bush, Clinton, Obama, Obama/Biden, Soros and all the Politicians on the take. That is ending.

    Try living in a city where illegal and extremely dangerous Gangs are taking over apartment complexes by for, IN AMERICA, all because the last administration and Pedo-Joe OPENED THE DAMN BORDER.

    If you don’t live in the USA, then you should Stfu, especially when your own country is a Cuck for the WEF and the gathering of filth and hubris that we call NATO.

    Wake up and realize that if the USA were to really fall….really…..as in millions dead, China attacks or what have you, YOU ARE SCREWED.

    There are groups out there that will behead you and your family without a second thought and then go milk their Goats.

    DD

  • joey jojo
    joey jojo

    DD, maybe you underestimate the affect of the American economy on the rest of the world. That's why people from other countries comment about the US economy.

    Trump has caused a stock market crash, affecting pensions and investments worldwide. Tariffs are likely to hurt American consumers. Trade and economies that have taken years to set up have been unbalanced. America has lost the trust of a lot of countries who are now looking for alternative markets. Consumers outside America are boycotting American made products.

    Trumps goals to streamline America's economy may be the right thing to do but it seems like he was trying to do it overnight.

    If you are a Trump fan, the 'America first' motto probably sounds great but he seems to be punishing everyone else for Americas problems.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    From Penn Wharton :

    "Larger tariffs would also decrease international capital flows, reducing worldwide demand for U.S. Treasuries. This is especially costly under the nation’s current baseline debt path, which is increasing faster than GDP. U.S. households would need to purchase more bonds, requiring bond prices to fall (yields increase), domestic capital investment prices to fall (the marginal product of capital increases), or both. Even conservatively assuming only domestic capital investment prices fall, the reduction in economic activity is more than twice as large as a tax increase on capital returns that raises the same amount of revenue."

    From Harvard Business Review :

    " But by starting a trade war on all fronts—a 360° trade war—the U.S. may receive global and cumulative blowback, while other countries will only see an impact on their trade with the U.S. Fighting a narrow trade war is not the same as fighting one on all fronts, as the impacts of both supply and demand shocks accumulate. "

  • hoser
    hoser

    Trump has cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously anymore.

    He has placed tariffs and backed them off at least three times in the same amount of months.

    As much as y’all want factories to be repatriated to the US, no corporation with half a 🧠 is going to invest long term capital into ever changing uncertain economic rules.

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    Trump is using the threat of tariffs to force countries to negotiate. This is why there is a constant stream of announcements-- a tariff is threatened, a tariff is applied, a tariff is delayed, a tariff is withdrawn, and so on. I expect this to continue, and for some tariffs to actually be applied --for a short time, at least-- if he doesn't get what he wants.

    It's difficult to gauge the long term effects because the US has so much spending power. Other nations apply tariffs to US goods already, in order to try to keep a healthy balance and support their own economies. Trump is trying to find ways to increase revenue while keeping taxes low, which is also the thrust behind the DOGE actions and investigations.

    Because these actions are deliberate and not the result of market forces, global markets will likely rebound if/when things settle down. While it might seem that Trump won't ever settle down, he does understand that unstable markets will hurt the Republicans in 2026, so I expect that he will draw back in the early part of that year. Otherwise, Democrats will regain control of Congress, which will give them the ability to slow him down for the following two years.

    As for the issue of trust, it is the problem that I have described before-- both parties here have spent decades putting more and more power in the hands of the President, and the last few administrations have shown why this is a terrible idea. Now, every new President starts his term by making a large number of sweeping executive orders and pushing the boundaries of what he can do. Everything Trump does might be completely undone in less than four years. It's insane. Who can operate in this kind of environment??

  • joey jojo
    joey jojo
    Everything Trump does might be completely undone in less than four years. It's insane. Who can operate in this kind of environment??

    Yep, that's why I doubt Trump will ever get everything he wants. Why would any manufacturing company decide to move everything to America in this tenuous political environment? By the time they have done it there will be a new President, or Trump will have changed the rules again.

    The market has told Trump he can't impose sky high tariffs because it adversely affects his own country. So right now, the tariffs aren't high enough to eliminate income taxes but they are high enough to cause inflation for the American consumer and disrupt supply chains.

  • Lee Marsh
    Lee Marsh

    When I was in university there was a young man, Matt, in our class who said he was an anarchist. People took this program because we wanted to make the world a better place. He was clear. I want to tear it down. Let other people build it back up. They will thank people like me who are willing to tear it down so they can start from scratch.

    Trump very much reminds me of this man. Angry at a system that never gave Matt a chance dispite growing up in a middle class home, a free education (his parents were paying his way), free health care... Trump had way more advantages than most people and still rails how everyone id out to get him.

    I very quietly asked him, "After you tear it down, how are people supposed to survive?" That was not his concern.

    I tried again. "After you tear it down, no police, no garbage men, no doctors, teachers, road maintenance. No power, no gas for your car, no street lights. No food in the stores. No jobs. So no money for rent or mortgages therefore no home. No phones or anmbulances to take you to closed hospitals. So why should people thank you?"

    He bumblued along, muttering but had no answer. I'm patient. But nothing. I don't think he ever thought it through. The rest of the class sat silent.

    I don't remember anyone talking to me about it after. Not him. Not the prof. Not the restbof the class. But it was sobering. Hopefully it gave everyone there something to think about.

    Before the election people asked trump what his plan was. He had none. I have a plan of a plan, an idea. Nothing concrete.

    When you want to change something in society, you need a plan. Before you take things down you need the replacement ready.

    If you live in a town with a river there is most likely a bridge. But sometimes bridges need to be replaced. You prepare. You plan the new bridge. You lay its foundations and build the spans. You test it and make it is well built and safe. And only when you are ready with the new bridge do you close the old.

    Trump had no plan. We see that in the chaotic orders and withdrawals, the promises broken, forgotten or amended. We see the double standard and who he wants to buddy to to, always looking for someone or something else.

    Meanwhile other people seem to be running the country. The constitution, congress and the judiciary ignored.

    Have you read the Constitution lately. Many if not most JWs have never paid attention. I have been reading it. It was and is a masterpiece on how to run a country. The First Amendment states:

    Congress shall make no law of the establishment of religion or prohibiting free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people to peacefully assemble and to peacefully petition the goverment for redress of its grievances.

    And that is just the beginning. The entire document starts with:

    "WE THE PEOPLE..."

    The founding fathers wanted no king, and no national church to tell them how to live in their new country. They left that behind. AND in its place they drafted the Constitution.

    And in an amazingly short period of time trump has ignored all of it, has posted images of himself wearing a crown and even the popes garments and has allowed 2025 to take over the government destroying most of the freedoms that the Constitution gave them.

    As a Canadian I am appalled at what is happening just a few miles from where I am.

    Like many of you, I understand people who leave one cult and jump into another. I see people refer to trump as "Dear Leader".

    I just wantbthe madman and the madness to stop. Sooner. Not later. Too many families and children will suffer. And 2025 is NOT a solution. It is a nightmare about to happen.

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze
    Before the election people asked trump what his plan was. He had none.

    This is the Platform Donald Trump campaigned on and was elected BY A LANDSLIDE to do - by the American people.

    1. Seal the border and stop the migrant invasion

    2. Carry out the largest deportation operation in American history

    3. End inflation, and make America affordable again

    4. Make America the dominant energy producer in the world, by far!

    5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER

    6. large tax cuts for workers, and no tax on tips!

    7. Defend our constitution, our bill of rights, and our fundamental freedoms, including freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to keep and bear arms

    8. Prevent world war three, restore peace in Europe and in the middle east, and build a great iron dome missile defense shield over our entire country -- all made in America

    9. End the weaponization of government against the American people

    10. Stop the migrant crime epidemic, demolish the foreign drug cartels, crush gang violence, and lock up violent offenders

    11. Rebuild our cities, including Washington dc, making them safe, clean, and beautiful again.

    12. Strengthen and modernize our military, making it, without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world

    13. Keep the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency

    14. Fight for and protect social security and medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age

    15. Cancel the electric vehicle mandate and cut costly and burdensome regulations

    16. Cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, radical gender ideology, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content on our children

    17. Keep men out of women's sports

    18. Deport pro-hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again

    19. Secure our elections, including same day voting, voter identification, paper ballots, and proof of citizenship

    20. Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success

    Like many of you, I understand people who leave one cult and jump into another. I see people refer to trump as "Dear Leader".
    Cults don't have elections. When a person stops reading the Watchtower, they can see all the deception they were under. My advice to you Lee Marsh is to stop watching fake news (and fake bible journals).

  • liam
    liam
    As a Canadian I am appalled at what is happening just a few miles from where I am.

    Over 73 MILLION AMERICANS VOTED FOR TRUMP...............Resulting in Trump wining not only the Popular Vote, But The Electoral Vote as well, meaning Trump enjoys greater public support and legitimacy compared to those who win only the Electoral College.

    We don't care what Canadians think. Especially when your Prime Minister Justin Trudeau PRAISES A SS Nazi soldier WITH A STANDING OVATION!

    "Sieg Heil,"

    In which countries is it illegal to perform the Nazi salute? | The ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsilnLnyWCA

  • pale.emperor
    pale.emperor

    As far as Im concerned, the sooner we have Socialism the better.

    🇨🇳🔨🪝

    The only winners here are the billionaires. Exploiting you workers to produce more than can be consumed, and keeping the surplus to themselves while throwing the actual workers the scraps off a bone to survive.

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