Trump Tariffs started today, Some Countries Caved in early morning.

by liam 107 Replies latest social current

  • Simon
    Simon
    Some background on the "carefully crafted" tariffs on remote islands

    For those that have a clue ... if they didn't put tariffs there, what do you think would happen?

    Someone owns it, and someone could register companies there ... to bypass the tariffs.

    So no, it's not as silly as you try to make out. It's crossing the T's and dotting the i's.

  • hoser
    hoser

    Anony mous

    It’s not that simple as to force people back to work

    The 40% of working age people who are not working can stay right where they are. It’s cheaper to get ai and automation to do the work.

    Ive been a manager and business owner for decades.

    I’m sick and tired of dealing with other peoples bullshit. The cops showing up at work, them fighting with their ex girlfriend, fighting with other employees bringing guns and threatening employees, stealing tools from the shop.

    What happens when you try to employ the chronically unemployable is that all of your good employees leave and your company goes broke.

    You couldn’t pay me to have those people on my property. Pay them to stay at home or they will steal it from your house

  • Biahi
    Biahi

    Hoser, wow! What kind of business do you own?

  • hoser
    hoser

    A small factory.

    I Don’t own the one I am currently managing which is good as I don’t have any of my personal assets tied to the business but I previously wholly owned one facility and owned another facility with partners that we sold to an international company about 10 years ago.

    I sold the facility I owned about 8 years ago.

    What many people don’t understand is that the “good” jobs aren’t coming back. We don’t need your services anymore. Manual labour will soon be a thing of the past. Even a lot of white collar office jobs will be replaced by ai.

    I recently replaced one of my machines with one that has artificial intelligence to adjust it to different product flows. It cost me one years salary for one employee to purchase and has already paid for itself in time savings and better quality output.

    Our line now goes 40% faster per hour and we don’t have to stop between production runs for 1/2 to 1 hour to manually adjust the equipment. I’ve been able to cut out the after hours overtime which is the time of day where most of the employee shenanigans take place.

    This ai machine is magic. I don’t know how it works but it teaches itself to keep doing a better and better job.

  • joey jojo
    joey jojo
    Simon
    For those that have a clue ... if they didn't put tariffs there, what do you think would happen?
    Someone owns it, and someone could register companies there ... to bypass the tariffs.
    So no, it's not as silly as you try to make out. It's crossing the T's and dotting the i's.

    Simon, for a moment - I thought you were being serious.

  • Anony Mous
    Anony Mous

    @joey: both of those instances went from concept to functional in 2 years - as in, hey we want to build a factory - should it be Texas or Georgia because California is screwing us over to rolling off the band. And those are megafactories. VW, GM etc all have capacities already that they reduced over time, I live not too far from a building GM still owns and operates but abandoned mostly for China, they use it now for small production runs, but nothing says they couldn’t just re-hire the 2000 employees they laid off under Biden and the 10,000 under Obama.

    There are many people who need assistance

    Not 40% of the population. Statistically (Pareto distribution) it should be <10%.

    The cops showing up at work, them fighting with their ex girlfriend, fighting with other employees bringing guns and threatening employees, stealing tools from the shop.

    So why are they not in jail and why are they collecting unemployment. Seems more like a management issue at both company and government level to keep enabling people like that. They don’t want to work, then go home and get nothing.

    All these problems have easy solutions, just stop giving handouts.

  • hoser
    hoser

    Anony mous

    I just did that. Purchase a machine to replace the loser humans that bring their bs into the workplace and keep the people that want to produce.

    How the government of Canada wants to deal with the entitled population is not my workplace problem anymore. Someone else can deal with them

    It is no just lower class citizens that are the problem. Entitled, me first attitudes cross the entire class structure

    The middle class make terrible employees as well

  • Anony Mous
    Anony Mous

    @hoser: automation can solve some problems, but with all the automation we’ve seen the growth of jobs in other avenues from highly skilled service technicians to cybersecurity.

    The problem in your case seems to be Canada - the problem is that now that the US is going to stop paying for your medicine and imports, the government can’t keep going like it is. You now have a Trudeau-clone in power, and people think it is change, that is a problem with the electorate, you are quickly running out of other people’s money and people that don’t work for a living are indeed feeling entitled, because the electorate keeps the feel-good entitlement candidates in power.

    The US however can’t keep funding EU and Canadian welfare either, we collectively wasted all our money in the last 75 years doing welfare for ourselves and the world to the point China, which is for the majority still the definition a third world country, is passing all of us by.

  • hoser
    hoser

    Anony mous

    Please explain to me how the United States is paying for my medicine and imports?

    My company barely purchases anything from the USA

    I have a few older American made machines but my main supplier has purchased the American side of the business and is moving production from the USA to Canada .

    Most of my competitors have switched from American to European manufactured equipment. It is higher quality and a lower price point.

    My artificial intelligence machine is assembled in China with parts from Italy and the UK. My supplier can build these machines in Canada if he needs to.

    Most of my consumable parts are made in Japan, Mexico or China. The United States has priced themselves out of the marketplace.

    Unless America can somehow devalue their currency they cannot compete as an exporting nation.

  • hoser
    hoser

    Anonymous

    I also don’t see how the usa pays my healthcare

    I pay taxes which builds hospitals and pays doctors and nurses salaries.

    Dental care is a mix of private and social care.

    I pay for dental insurance that covers 80% of my costs the rest I pay out of pocket. I earn too much money to get the taxpayer funded dental but that is ok.

    I think most pharmaceuticals are available in places other than the USA so if the tariffs get too crazy our health care boards will purchase them elsewhere.

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