"the U.N." - it's effects on the witnesses

by gumby 40 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff
    I was "in" when the information came out in the WT about it having NGO status in the UN.

    Where is this WT that you read this in???

  • freelife
    freelife

    even after i was out of the borg i did not know about many of the issues thar are now as clear as glass to me. I still had the attitude that i did not want to hear the negative even though i was no longer active and really did not have the desire to go back. It was when i met my fiancee that i started to see the hipocrites for what they really were. I did not know the extent of their tresspasses until Smurfy showed me this site. I was in utter shock upon seeing these things no wonder they did not want us looking at the negative. If i would have known what i know now i would have been out years ago.

    Thank you to all the ones who post information as to what the WTS is really doing. Without you many more of us would still be lost in the lies of the borg.

  • gumby
    gumby
    Where is this WT that you read this in???

    It was not printed in a watchtower. It was listed as a member on the UN site......until they were exposed as members, then quickly removed themselves.

    Gumby

  • Mysterious
    Mysterious
    With "Dateline" and "Fifth Estate" uncovering Child Molestation issue among Jehovah's Witnesses....I thought many would fall out.

    Naw they cover it up with all the guilt that you shouldn't be watching such slander. And the read letters from the platform to the effect.

    What gets me is the amount , that were effected by the U.N. scandle. If I were a dub still......how would I have been affected? I would see they used theocratic tactic and "Milked" the U.N. for it's resources as the bible said Gods people would do.....(as explained by the dubs) I would not see this issue as a challenge to dub convictions.

    I never even heard of it except from JWD. I dont think there has been enough publicity to have a bigger effect.

  • gumby
    gumby

    Freelife,

    I did not know the extent of their tresspasses until Smurfy showed me this site.

    So you are one of the ones who were helped out by an Apostate eh?

    Gumby

  • amen
    amen

    Gumby,

    From the beginnig I had doubt about 2 classes of Cristians, however i did go along with the witnesses because they seem to be right on many things that I thought were OK, for example, living in the end time. They were logic but of course i did not have anything to compare when i studied with them.

    Over time, i saw some of the teaching were not matching God words, They took a lot verses out of context to match their doctrines. In 2001 we had the one day school for the Ministerial Servant and i was disgust of how the use some text from the bible to give themself more authorities over the brother and sisters I had the crisp over what the speaker said. This guy was from the bethel. I knew this guy because on many ocasion after asemblys we had gone to restaurants.

    This was the bell ringing to tell me that i have seen no reconciliation with the kind of love Christ had for his follower.

    After that I would see during asemblies how a speaker coming from bethel N.Y. would talk about apostats and use a verse from the book of Proverb to show not to associate with apostats, well i took note of that text, when i got home i when to a diferent translation to examine that text because i felt it fit too well for themself. Yes the word apostat was not from other bible translation.

    I was asking myself why the talk so much about apostats, because as a witness i have never seen any activities of apostat except when i went to an asembly in Toronto in 93 at the skydome where they were outside protesting.

    I could go on for ever also they are control freaks, eventhough i had no problems following the JW life but i know they don't give you space to breath, the bible is right, Jeremy 10:23 and the Organization failed to honour God.

    Today i feel sometimes ashame that i had been mislead by the witnesses.

    Amen

  • metatron
    metatron

    My doubts had been gathering for years - especially after what I experienced at Bethel.

    However, what really caused me to explode was the Bulgarian Compromise. After that, I concluded that it was all

    a lie. The UN thing shocked me not merely because it was hypocritical and deceptive - but because it was so utterly

    brazen and contemptuous. They took for granted that they could get away with it.

    metatron

  • gentlesoul
    gentlesoul

    I actually do not know a single witness that left that religion because of the UN cover-up nor have I ever known a witness that left because of the dateline sex coverup, they are brain washed to believe the original lie and they are brain washed to believe the lies used to cover up

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32

    I doubt any single issue would have helped me get out of the org. It was only when many issues compounded was I able to break through the mind control.

    I didn't find out about the UN thing till after we left. But the Dateline episode had a great effect on me even though I didn't realize it at the time. Also catching the WTS lie in the 1985 Evolution book helped.

  • texarcanada
    texarcanada

    One of the straws that broke it for me was finding out they had written a letter in support of Jimmy Swaggert, as a friend of the court, to assist his ministry in an attempt to avoid paying sales tax on literature. So much for Ceaser's things to Ceaser.

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