astrology and the bible

by zen nudist 30 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • sens
    sens

    ummmmm yer but if that is the case why is it blacklisted in the bible.

    its all crap.

    psychics = cold readings (ex.'money will come into your life'..'you will meet a man/woman/it'..'your life is complex' = bullshit = simple.

    Sens The Skeptic Of The 'My Chi Is flowing to my CPU class'

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Sens:Thank you for sharing. I feel edified...

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32
    psychics = cold readings

    I agree...I'm a skeptic of everything. But I don't have chi flowing through my CPU.

  • sens
    sens
    But I don't have chi flowing through my CPU.

    your a filfy filfy man!! behave plz!!

    little toe ...its ok, im just a negative energy that thrives off bad chi

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Perhaps due to my JW background, I was somewhat reluctant to see astrological symbolism in the Bible until I saw a large and beautiful mosaic of the zodiac on the floor of an ancient synagogue in Galilee (I think it was in Tiberias). Astrology was definitely accepted in 1st century very pluralistic Judaism. And at least in Revelation symbolism it plays an essential part.

    I think the identification of the four faces in Revelation 4 to the four Evangelists is no older than Irenaeus of Lyons, and that it is best explained by the reference in Ezekiel 1 & 10, describing the kerubim under the influence of the Babylonian karibou (temple guardians).

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    The only problem with this theory is that Astrology contradicts the Christian belief of Free Will. Determinism is in direct conflict with many aspects of the Christian belief. Augustine makes the most detailed attack in his work, the City of God.....

    The Astral religion was rejected as idiolatry pure and simple. How do you square this?

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Thi Chi: what do you mean by "the Christian doctrine of free will"? I wouldn't have thought of Augustine as an advocate of free will, since he is also one of the first Christian thinkers of predestination...

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    ThiChi:
    Free Will is usually associated more with Arminian doctrine.

    Calvinist doctrine has it's own dichotomy in "Man's Responsibility v's God's Sovereignty" but, with it's views on predestination, is much closer aligned to astrology than most would dare admit. It's a small step to suggest that God wrote the plan in the stars, but that's too aligned with the occult for most Christians to contemplate.

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Good question:

    Predestination, for Augustine, was a matter of affirming the omnipotent and omniscient qualities of God. To limit them in any way was to detract from God's glory and perfection. In other words, Man cannot alone change God?s plans for his creation.

    Augustine claims that humans are not predestined to sin, and in that sense we have free will, and thus can be held morally responsible for our sins. Humans still have wills, but they are corrupted so that while there is the possibility of doing both good and evil, in actuality we will always do evil, unless one's will is healed by God's grace. It is a compatibilist notion that holds that God's complete predestination and our free wills can both be true.

    In one place, for example, he rhetorically asks: ""Why, in the life of twins??in their actions, the events that befall them, their professions, arts, honors and other things pertaining to human life, as well as in their very deaths??is there often so great a difference that, as far as these things are concerned, many entire strangers are more like them than they are like each other, though separated at birth by the smallest interval of time but at conception generated by the same act and at the same moment?"" The mature Augustine had come to believe that human destiny is not shaped by lifeless stars, but by the living Lord of both stars and humanity.

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Little Toe:

    The Astral religion was rejected by the First Century Christians as idiolatry, pure and simple.......I can provide more information, if you want.....

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