Most despicable Bible texts

by logansrun 56 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  Aztec

  Imagine constructing a talk about that!

  Leolaia, that's funny. The weekly readings that were the worst were the passages that talked about nothing but who begat whom. Talk about a boring talk. I would've hated to try and find something of interest to write a talk about with that material. The obviously biased ones against women (think Dinah and Canaanite women Genesis 34:1-31) used to piss me off even as a young girl. I'd sit there listening and glaring at the speaker as he put the WTS slant on it and found a way to put all the blame on the woman's behavior without making it look like they were putting women down. I guess I had a low bullshit tolerance even as a kid.

  ~Aztec
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  minimus

  Mt. 24: 45 about the "faithful & discreet slave".
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  LittleToe

  Bradley:

  I'm just waiting for Little Toe to join this thread.

  If you want my honest opinion, the fun is wearing thin. The quantity of anti-bible / anti-religion / anti-Christian threads, that are deluging the board, these days, is becoming a turn off, even for me. Little gets debated thoroughly, rather it becomes an orgy of put-downs, with a certain mob-mentality. My mind flashes back to 1995, when I first got on the Net and did a search for the name "Jehovah". I was completely turned off by the hatred and anti-everything atmosphere, that I saw on the first "Apostate" site that I stumbled across. Granted, we haven't got that level of hatred here (else I've grown a thinker skin, along with a different perspective), but some of the other things that turned me off are becoming frequent. I spent a further five years studiously avoiding "apostate" sites, because of that experience. In fact I didn't look for a site like this until after I had decided to leave the borg. It killed any curiosity stone dead. Now, if my experience is anything to go by, there are probably plenty more in that boat. IMHO This place is more than a home to we who recover, it's a lifeline to those still trapped. Just my perspective on it - maybe I'm in a funny mood again...
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  plmkrzy

  Little gets debated thoroughly, rather it becomes an orgy of put-downs, with a certain mob-mentality

  I remember when I was surfing through jw sites and was turned off by 99% because of this very reason. I remember why I stayed here.

  I know why I freaquent now as little as I do.

  I agree with LT

  even though he is always correcting me everywhere I go
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  Narkissos

  LT,

  I'm very sorry you took it bad. I was thinking of you even before Bradley mentioned you, and really didn't figure you would. Frankly, most of the texts quoted on this thread already bothered me when I was a JW. And probably you have quite a few yourself. In fact I had in mind creating another thread on "Most admirable Bible texts" -- just for balance, or to be fair. Every Bible reader has his/her own "Bible in the Bible" (I know you have) and a number of other texts he/she avoids or explains away. Approaching the issue with humour might be healthy -- don't you think?
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  logansrun

  Little Toe,

  I'm sorry...I didn't mean to single you out. Actually, I consider your faith to be far superior in it's humanity than any fundamentalist I've met. Unquestionably there are very inspiring and moralizing scriptures in the Bible. I think the life of Jesus -- at least how he is presented to us -- is testimony to that. But....

  ...to ignore the painfully obvious in the Bible is intellectually -- and dare I say, morally -- dishonest. Trying, as some may, to "moralize" the passages quoted in this thread is the intellectual equivalent of admiring an Adolph Hitler because he was passionate in his beliefs and practices. I'm sorry, but some things need to be aired out and the "nasty" bits of the Bible thrown away like chaff.

  Bradley
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  LittleToe

  Bradley:

  Actually, I consider your faith to be far superior in it's humanity than any fundamentalist I've met.

  Ermm... The phrase "p*ss off you condescending b*st*rd", comes to mind. I'm not a fundamentalist!!!
  But then I think you already know that, so I take it back

  Narkissos:
  The thread, in and of itself doesn't bother me in the slightest.
  I'm just expressing how I feel about what appears to be a trend that is forming on this site.
  I'd just as soon not be the butt of the joke.

  Plmkrzy:
  To be correcting you everywhere you go I'd have to be following you, and that would be obsessive!
  Damn, I corrected you again.
  Well, if you hadn't run, when I chased after you with that mistletoe, maybe I wouldn't have to obsess!
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  peacefulpete

  I also do not wish to offend. Yet the subject is Bible Research. with critical analysis of the Bible and Wt literature. I was asked a while back my motive for what typically as been a critical view of the Bible. I am of the same mind now, that much of the problem for exJWs is that the fundementalist/literalist view of the Bible lingers on. Those leaving very often suffer from depression and worthlessness stemming from the Bible's message of doom. It is vital to recognise the book is not what we were told it was, and that the future is ours to make.
  
  As for myself, I have gained a much better understanding of the book thru this forum, both by researching so as to reply to rebuttals and by listening to well framed arguments. Perhaps LT, you are upset at the conclusions drawn by the posters, yet ample opportunity is made to respond. If you wish to discuss the Bible without encountering a critical perspective you must go to a forum that limits it's posters to those who share your opinion. There are many such sites. Myself, I wish you to stay, as I welcome all sincere perspectives.
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  LittleToe

  Pete: As I recently commented, I enjoy your research. You have a perspective that I appreciate, even when it differs from mine.

  Yet the subject is Bible Research.

  This thread has little to do with research. It's more of a fun poke at the bible generally.

  As for myself, I have gained a much better understanding of the book thru this forum, both by researching so as to reply to rebuttals and by listening to well framed arguments.

  Likewise. It's been an eye-opener right from word go, when I had my first argument with JanH and was roundly trounced.
  It's a shame that so few can be conducted without the dross of detractors heckling from the sidelines and sidetracking them.

  Perhaps LT, you are upset at the conclusions drawn by the posters, yet ample opportunity is made to respond.

  Conclusions I have no problem with. I'm more than happy for others to differ from my viewpoint.
  I'm mainly here to learn, help, and enjoyu the company of others.
  Consistant jeering and deriding the differences of others is, however, another matter.

  If you wish to discuss the Bible without encountering a critical perspective you must go to a forum that limits it's posters to those who share your opinion.

  Do you really think that that is what I'm about? Things that make you go "Hmmm..."
  That comment, in and of itself, shows how little you get to know someone from this medium.
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  toreador

  I appreciate threads coming at the bible from both angles, from the good and from the bad. I do wonder why some of those incredible passages that have been posted here were ever allowed to be put in the bible if God is a God of love. Especially the old testament seems to me to have a lot weird and disgusting things going on that either God allowed or did nothing by way of correcting or chastising the offending party.