First of all will the blood be a guaranatee that the person will live -- to me not wanting to take blood is like anything else if a person want to make a choice that is their decision -- I feel NO medical treatment should be given against anyone wishes -- people seem to forget there are other alternatives to blood -- to me it is like if a person is allegic to Penicllum -- does this mean the person should not be given any other treatment -- I am sorry but I am in agreement with the blood stance. There are some beliefs which will not seek medical treatment at all -- what does everyone think about this.......
Would You Give Blood To Someone Against Their Wishes?
by minimus 31 Replies latest jw friends
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onacruse
My parents have made their wishes very clear, and as their Medical Representative I've made it clear that I will absolutely honor their wishes. I would do the same for all of my JW relatives (they're all adults).
They pay their dime and take their chances, just like the rest of us.
Craig
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Sam Beli
Scrubmaster said:
First of all will the blood be a guaranatee that the person will live ?
No, as you suggest, receipt of blood does not guarantee survival, just as there are no guarantees with any other medical procedure either.
I feel NO medical treatment should be given against anyone wishes
Agreed!
people seem to forget there are other alternatives to blood
Whoops, here you have fallen into the WTS trap. It is true that the water in blood can be obtained from other sources, including sterile water, saline, etc. Certain electrolytes and proteins can also be artificially constituted. However, many complex proteins like albumin are available only from blood sources. The most complex molecule in blood, hemoglobin ? the major component of the red cell, is available only from blood. In many medical emergencies, these latter "fractions" of blood are essential to life. When discussing "other alternatives to blood" the WTS conveniently omits these important facts.
Therefore, this argument of yours is not valid: "to me it is like if a person is allegic to Penicllum -- does this mean the person should not be given any other treatment."
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Phil
Give blood to a love one without their permission? Your damn right. We could argue about the merits later when they survive. Religious beliefs being man made,is one thing, saving a loved one is quite another.
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scrubmaster
The most complex molecule in blood, hemoglobin ? the major component of the red cell, is available only from blood. In many medical emergencies, these latter "fractions" of blood are essential to life.
You arae absolutely one percent sure about this -- to make one more point we all take a stand on somethings in out life -- the soldiers who die in war do they get to make a choice ? (hum) You may say the don have to sign up for the army -- but this would mean they would be drafted to fight and sometimes die for something they do not believe in -- people are entitle to there beliefs - I notice no on touched the issue of religions who do not seek medical treatment at ALL -- therefore at least they do not just want to die it is just one treatment ! We all make choices therefore if this is some ones wish it is not up to anyone to stop them
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blondie
Of course, if you can force blood on them, then they can turn around and force you not to have a blood transfusion. The law allows each adult to make their own choice which is much better as far as I am concerned.
Blondie
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Phil
That is right Blondie. But, if my wife or one of my children need blood and they are incapacitated, I will offer my signiature to administer blood even though they had told me previously that they did not want to ever have transfusions. I would definitely, give my blood if compatible, and then argue about it after I have saver her life. I would not give it a second thought. As you say we all have our own opinion and that would be mine. I am entitled to my opinion under those circumstances, aren't I?
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avishai
Amen, Phil. People have rights, but if my wife were a JW, sorry, she don't get the right to croak & leave me w/ the kids over a dumbass religion. I'd do the same as you.
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dh
if it were either of my parents and there was any way i could keep them alive, i would do it, even if i had to rip up their blood cards & bribe the doctor or move them to a private hospital, i would do it, no way my parents are going out like that if i can help it.
however if it were just blood for the sake of procedure, i would respect their wishes, but i wouldn't let them die over it.
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blondie
Phil,
As you say we all have our own opinion and that would be mine. I am entitled to my opinion under those circumstances, aren't I?
Just be prepared when your JW wife would turn around and do the same for you, that is, withhold a blood transfusion against your wishes. I understand about children, they are minors, but if you are going to force a medical procedure on an adult, be prepared to have the same done to you when you are unconscious. Just my opinion.
Blondie