Just courius, some questions about the past

by Gorb 42 Replies latest jw friends

  • waton
    waton

    More recent history: David Splane in an official presentation said that older anointed ones than Fredrick Franz, the near centenarian existed, exist. . Those 2groups, if overlapping by ~20 years, as Franz did in 1914, would bring the Great Tribulation to ~ 2075. Do the math. (2x100)- (2x20) = 160, +1914 = 2074 as rapture of the anointed generation, then battle in 2075. + 1000 = 3075, not 2975 as asserted above, beginning of final test.

    cleaned those numbers up for you.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Everything they can do explain such nonsense,

  • wantingtruth
  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    Oh ,I certainly remember the 1975 fiasco ,when tey tried to palm it off onto over zealous bros, running ahead of themselves .

    As for the Superior Authorities they first taught that it was the worldly govts /authorities etc ,then they had new light and went with Jehovah God and Christ Jesus as the Superior authorities ,then lo and behold more new light flashed and they reverted back to the World Govts and authorities .

    You can`t make this stuff up ,how JW`s can flip /flop from one extreme to another .

  • wantingtruth
  • ThomasMore
    ThomasMore

    WTC is making a concerted effort to erase their history of false prophesies but it is a fool's errand. There are simply too many ways to show the redactions. They were quick to discredit Ray Franz and it was all hands on deck. A district overseer told me that Ray was sporting a clerical collar and forming a new church. Of course there was no truth in that at all. The D.O. never apologized for the lie/misinformation - I think he wanted it to be true.

    As for the 6,000 years of man's history ending in 1975, the achaeological evidence of civilizations dating back to 12,000 old is overwhelming. Because it is impossible to discredit, WTC does not even try to explain the discrepancy, simply saying that carbon dating is inaccurate. (In fact, carbon dating is often inaccurate as it typically underestimates the age of the artifact.

    Nevertheless, WTC proves that it has no focus on truth whatsoever. If you want to see if they are lying, watch their lips to see if they are moving.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    " , simply saying that carbon dating is inaccurate. (In fact, carbon dating is often inaccurate as it typically underestimates the age of the artifact."

    True, and there is a system of adjustment that can be done, which dates to an accuracy of plus or minus a decade or maybe two , up to as long as 50,000 years ago.

    The WT ignores the fact that there are three or four other methods of dating that are accurate without adjustment, and work for things millions of years old.

    They are living in the past, where their lies and half truths were got away with so easily, now they are so easy to check, and often without bothering to do that, J.W's will come across truth accidentally.

    J.W's have to deal with a growing Cognitive Dissonance as time goes by, the truth about the Org's past is out in the open, the Facts and Evidence are out in the open that contradict the Org's nonsense on that Past, and other matters, on a daily basis.

  • Indoubtbigtime
    Indoubtbigtime

    As for the 6,000 years of man's history ending in 1975, the achaeological evidence of civilizations dating back to 12,000 old is overwhelming. Because it is impossible to discredit, WTC does not even try to explain the discrepancy, simply saying that carbon dating is inaccurate. (In fact, carbon dating is often inaccurate as it typically underestimates the age of the artifact.“

    ThomasMore I have been interested in the 6000 year thing for a while. It does seem human history can only be confirmed to about 5000-6000 years for absolutely sure

    ancient Egypt can have absolute confirmation in many ways, but all less than 6000years, lots of other ancient civilisations from around the world can’t seem to have absolute confirmation more than 6000years can they?

    what are the top three lines of evidence of humans being on earth more than 6000years ago?

    you say the evidence is overwhelming can you give me the top three?

  • Queequeg
    Queequeg

    Göbekli Tepe

    Tell es-sultan

    Çatalhöyük

    Buildings seem pretty, ehm, solid to me. There are plenty of other things like cave paintings and other art (Venus of Hohle Fels). I can't imagine that you've missed these things if you have been "interested" in the subject.

  • Indoubtbigtime
    Indoubtbigtime

    Göbekli Tepe

    Tell es-sultan

    Çatalhöyük

    Yes but asked is there any indisputable proof of anything man made more than 6000 years old? As you seemed to imply there was

    all those things are disputed that they are more than 6000 years old

    all cave paintings can’t be proven they are more than 6000 years old

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