Haven't you got anything better to do?

by tedcobb 54 Replies latest jw friends

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  Thirdson

  Farkel,

  There will be a quiz later.

  Wow, will it be like the written review?

  Answer the following questions by marking true or false:

  1. C.T. Russell and the Bible students believed Christ would return in 1914?

  2. The Golden Age (now Awake) repeatable extolled the virtues of aluminum cookware?

  3. Russell was a Greek scholar?

  4. Fred Franz was a Rhodes scholar?

  Underline the statement that correctly completes the following sentences:
  
  1. JF Rutherford predicted the return of the “Princes” in (1918, 1925, 1975)?

  2. Fred Franz predicted the end of the world (years and decades, centuries, weeks or months) after the end of 1975?

  3. J.F. Rutherford had a residence called (Beth’ el, Beth-Sarim, Beth-Shan)? (No, the out-house was not called Beth-Shittah...Insight Book page 305)

  4. The “Generation” of Mathew 24:34 is (all of the people age 15 and over in 1914, all of the people born in or prior to 1914, everybody who has ever lived since 1914 and is still alive now and in the future)?

  5. The Great Pyramid if Gizeh is (God’s stone Witness, predicted the coming of Armageddon in 1914, predicted the coming of Armageddon in 1915)?

  6. The men of Sodom will ( be resurrected, not be resurrected, will live or die depending on the tacking of the holy spirit)?

  We could have some fun?

  Thirdson

  'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
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  princecharmant

  Most of the responses have been kind indeed. For a few others who chose sarcasm ("why are you here when your religion says not to be"), remember that most of those who later turned "apostate" passed through the same path of defying the WT and its rules. Every Witness who comes to this and similar sites will have that initial reaction of disbelief and rage. How could any people villify the "one and only true religon"? Why can't they all see that they're wrong and we're right? The "mother" analogy has been used every so often, but it is still valid with the JW mindset. The Organization - as it is called - it every Witness' mother, perceived to be kind, all-knowing, never in the wrong. People don't take kindly to abuses rained at their mother. However, at some point, they start to realize that Mama isn't perfect, that as IANAO once suggested to me, the world - therefore life - is not all black and white but technocolor, that religion and God and life isn't suspended to what Brooklyn teaches. That is why, instead of mocking, hurling words at the "errant" Witness who comes to jw.com, the attitude of most in welcoming "such one" is likely to bear more fruit. It is such a supreme act of defiance for a Witness to get on the Internet and do a search on witnesses. In some way it shows he/she is not satisfied with what the Society dishes out weekly. He/she is ready to break ranks.

  It will not take our friend here to learn the truth. Even if he chooses to remain a witness for whatever reason, he'll not be the same ever again.

  zee tcharming prenze
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  JT

  Princechanment:

  It is such a supreme act of defiance for a Witness to get on the Internet and do a search on witnesses. In some way it shows he/she is not satisfied with what the Society dishes out weekly. He/she is ready to break ranks.

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  so well put indeed

  james
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  Farkel

  To the Guy after the second son,

  : Answer the following questions by marking true or false:

  Ok! I'll take that dare before I foist it off on some dumb-dubbies!

  : 1. C.T. Russell and the Bible students believed Christ would return in 1914?

  Of course he did. Look, if Christ could return invisibly in 1874 then why in-the-hell couldn't he return invisibly in 1914? And if the "saints" could be invisibly resurrected in 1878 when why-in-the hell couldn't they be invisibly resurrected in 1918? Duh!

  : 2. The Golden Age (now Awake) repeatable extolled the virtues of aluminum cookware?

  Of course they did, and they were among the first to also report the severe damage caused by many germs and bacteria and stood at the vanguard of extolling the virtues of vaccinations, organ transplants and modern science. Just read their stuff and you'll see God's hand in every word. Certainly Jehovah had a hand in their work at that time. Heck, they were the first to promote the indisputable fact that the heart is the seat of all of our emotions. Any dummy should have figured that out, but the society took the risk or going against the demonized scientists of the day to write the truth about those things.

  : 3. Russell was a Greek scholar?

  Yes he was. He knew exactly three letters of the Greek alphabet and that's a lot more than Fred Hall knows.

  : 4. Fred Franz was a Rhodes scholar?

  Yes he was. The Rhodes Foundation accepted his first submittal, which included critical information necessary for him to qualify, namely, his name, address and the fee necessary for them to evaluate his name and address.

  : Underline the statement that correctly completes the following sentences:

  : 1. JF Rutherford predicted the return of the “Princes” in (1918, 1925, 1975)?

  JF Rutherford predicted the return of the “Princes” in (1918, 1925, 1975)?

  That was EASY! Give me something difficult!

  : 2. Fred Franz predicted the end of the world (years and decades, centuries, weeks or months) after the end of 1975?

  He had at least two or three dozen MORE predictions in the works. Then he died and his bad dressing habits died with him. Pity.

  : 3. J.F. Rutherford had a residence called (Beth’ el, Beth-Sarim, Beth-Shan)? (No, the out-house was not called Beth-Shittah...Insight Book page 305)

  Idiot. Those homes were called "Beth Drunks" and "Beth Drunks II" which in Hebrew means "Beth Drunks" and "Beth Drunks II." Joe liked women by the name of "Beth."

  : 4. The “Generation” of Mathew 24:34 is (all of the people age 15 and over in 1914, all of the people born in or prior to 1914, everybody who has ever lived since 1914 and is still alive now and in the future)?

  All of the above and more.

  : 5. The Great Pyramid if Gizeh is (God’s stone Witness, predicted the coming of Armageddon in 1914, predicted the coming of Armageddon in 1915)?

  Yes it did. There was an earthquake and it shifted two pyramid-inches. Don't you khow ANYTHING?

  : 6. The men of Sodom will ( be resurrected, not be resurrected, will live or die depending on the tacking of the holy spirit)?

  Yes they will. No they won't. What part of that do you not understand. It is as simple as pie, yet for some is quite "spiritually deep."

  Geeesh. That was too easy.

  Farkel
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  somebody

  If you've left and think what JWs believe is a load of rubbish, thtat fine, you cn do what you want, but why you have to go on about it?

  Have you ever stopped to think that WE ARE doing what we want to do? If between all of us, we can help people that have been handed over to satan by "some of the most peaceful people on earth", ( your words!, but of course we ALL know they aren't your words at all, and you don't even mean them. You read them in a Watchtower over and over and over again. Just like you read that you are the most happiest, humblest, honest, loving people too.) then all our efforts are worth letting the people the whole organization that YOU are a MEMBER of participated in handing over to satan, that they are still worthy of the love of God, themselves, and others.

  And when your god, the WBTS/society tells LIES to the public and media on their site such as this one: ( and this is only ONE of the outright lies on the site)
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  "Are you Christians?

  Yes. We follow Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and put faith in the ransom sacrifice he provided for the salvation of mankind. We imitate his example in preaching and teaching and in our dealings with fellow humans."
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  we are here, as witnesses, that it's a lie.

  JWs DO NO such thing! ( here is my reference from the official media site that your god provides to decieve the public, so that one "humble" person can't say that I got it from anyone else... http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/beliefsfaq.htm )

  Jesus said in Matthew 28:18 that ALL AUTHORITY over the heavens and the earth were given to him, after he died for our sins, and was resurrected. He also said to STOP JUDGING and to STOP CONDEMNING one another. (Luke 6:37)..... John 5:22 says that even Jehovah judges no one. He has committed Jesus to do the judging.

  so....

  Do JWs REALLY follow Jesus ? NO, they do NOT. Therefore, it is a lie that they are Christians. The WBTS tells that lie. This is what kind of "peaceful" people they really are: ( i've quoted you, the Bible, and the "organization's" site only)

  7/1/92 Watchtower
  "In recent years disfellowshippings worldwide have been approximately 1 percent of publishers. That means that out of about a hundred sheep that remain in the fold, one is lost-at least temporarily. Considering the time and effort it takes to bring a person into the fold, is it not heartrending to know that tens of thousands are 'handed back to Satan' every year?-1 Corinthians 5:5."

  Here is the organization that you follow and that you say you are HAPPY with, completely taking the authority that God gave to his Son off him, and taking it upon themselves to judge if fellow sinners as unrepentent, and then to condemn them by "handing them over to satan". They quote a scripture of letters that Paul wrote to the congregation of Corinthians and USE that to justify totaly throwing out the reason why God gave his Son's life for us to begin with. That is just on way that JWs do NOT put faith in the sacrifice that God made for MANKIND.

  "is it not heartrending to know that tens of thousands are 'handed back to Satan' every year?"......OBVIOUSLY it is not heartrending enough for JWs to stop the evil practice of handing TENS OF THOUSANDS of fellow sinners over to satan. For they still hand people over to satan to this day. And you just said that you were happy being part of it all. And for those of us who were not happy following "the organization" and chose to follow Jesus instead, guess where it would have (if we'd stuck around for it) got us with these "peaceful" people. HANDED OVER TO SATAN! And I've only talked about ONE lie that YOUR organization tells. There are too many to count.

  So..now here we are, all of us "apostates from the organization", to help pick up all the people that the most peaceful, loving, humble, honest people on earth/in the world tossed to satan . We have apostated/stand away from YOUR organisation. How evil of us all. Someday, you might come out of darkness and into light. When you do, your eyes will take time to adjust too the light, as when waking up to sunlight. All of us evil apostates will be here to help you throuhg it in anyway we can. Even to just listen to you get your anger and pain out. Please remember that. I wish you well.

  peace,
  somebody