I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!

by Kulotti79 55 Replies latest jw friends

  • KateWild
    KateWild

    Kulotti,

    It was really nice that you were bought groceries when you were sick. But they count it all as time. I genuinely cared when I was a JW and I still genuinely care.

    You will have to suppress your personality and your true self if you ever get baptised. You will never have a partner unless you go straight.

    It was the kindness that got me in too, but it was the lack of love that opened my eyes when I needed it most.

    Thanks for reading all the advice

    Kate xx


  • WheninDoubt
    WheninDoubt

    To the one who made this post? Let not man decide your fate. Follow your heart.

    The messenger is only a tool to prepare one. The path to Salvation is within. Let not your soul

    Be betrayed as if the Pharisees to Christ.

     

    American King James Version
    if any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God gives: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

     

    1 Peter 4: 11-13

    10As each one has received a special gift, employ it in serving one another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God. 11Whoever speaks, is to do so as one who is speaking the utterances of God; whoever serves is to do so as one who is serving by the strength which God supplies; so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen. 12Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you; 13but to the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing, so that also at the revelation of His glory you may rejoice with exultation.…

     

     

    Romans 12:3
    for by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.

     

    1 Thessalonians 2:4
    On the contrary, we speak as those approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel. We are not trying to please people but God, who tests our hearts. The day you understand the true context of these meaning, you will glorify god.

     

    1 Peter 2:12
    Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us.

     

    Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

    4:7-11 The destruction of the Jewish church and nation, foretold by our Saviour, was very near. And the speedy approach of death and judgment concerns all, to which these words naturally lead our minds. Our approaching end, is a powerful argument to make us sober in all worldly matters, and earnest in religion. There are so many things amiss in all that unless love covers, excuses, and forgives in others, the mistakes and faults for which everyone needs the forbearance of others, Satan will prevail to stir up divisions and discords. But we are not to suppose that charity will cover or make amends for the sins of those who exercise it, so as to induce God to forgive them. The nature of a Christian's work, which is high work and hard work, the goodness of the Master, and the excellence of the reward, all require that our endeavors should be serious and earnest. And in all the duties and services of life, we should aim at the glory of God as our chief end. He is a miserable, unsettled wretch, who cleaves to himself, and forgets God; is only perplexed about his credit, and gain, and base ends, which are often broken, and which, when he attains, both he and they must shortly perish together. But he who has given up himself and his all to God, may say confidently that the Lord is his portion; and nothing but glory through Christ Jesus, is solid and lasting; that abideth forever.

     

    Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

    If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God, This is an application of the above general rule to a particular case, the public ministry of the word, for that is here meant: "if any man speak"; not in any manner, or on any subject; not in a private way, or about things natural and civil; but in public, and concerning divine things: "let him speak": this is rightly supplied in our translation; and in which it is supported and confirmed by the Syriac and Arabic versions, who both supply the same way: "as the oracles of God"; by which are meant the writings of the Old Testament, the sacred Scriptures;

  • kaik
    kaik

    Kulotti79, in Czech we have saying when they trying to catch a bird, they sing nice to him. Moment you are in the cage and door locked behind you in the name of spiritual baptism, all the sweet talk and singing is gone. Any questioning of their doctrine is strictly forbidden and you do not question FDS. Nobody will damn rat if you are dying on the street anymore at all once you are baptized. I grew up in that cult, have a huge JW family and I know. My favorite JW hypocrisy time was when CO visited our KH and mention to reach out people were inactivate. Someone had mentioned elderly lonely sister, one of the women who never married, and available after Armageddon, somewhat disorganized, not always on program and never on time. They tried to locate her, but nobody knew where she lived in small city, but they eventually find out that she died at home and her body was discovered by neighbors by smell and was buried at the city expenses. Nobody gave the f- about her. Even some of the women in the KH commented that she may not be resurrected because she was not really good JW and doubtful over doctrine and may died as apostate and thus forever condemned.


    As about being gay, JWs do not are what is your sexual orientation as long you do not act on it and do not have a physical relationship. I knew couple gay JWs who even were persecuted by communist regime for their faith and were gay and feminine. One turned out crazy  and was stalking young men which was cause for his DFs and other broke up from the cult and lives with his partner while his parent (one is elder) never accepted it.  The reasoning behind the JW mind is that you can be gay, but as long you stay celibate until the arrival of the new world, where you will be fixed and turned into fully productive heterosexual. It should not take long, time is running out for this world, Armageddon is about to happen, really, it is just behind the corner... since 1879!

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    So you know about child rape coverups and you're still drawn to it. You brush this off with a comment akin to, "Oh well, I'm just eccentric."

    If you're a pedophile, then I guess that explains it. You're with the right group.

    If you are not a child rapist then you should think very carefully about this reaction of yours. 

    I'm sure there are other high control cults that accept homosexuality that you can find to join, to satisfy your need to be eccentric (or whatever your deal is). You could probably even find one that's not dangerous.

    You can never be homosexual and a jw--it will never be allowed. You will have to be celibate and you'll always be totally looked down upon for having those 'feelings'.

    Now those are some strong words, I know. You're probably pissed off at me right now. I think you need to hear this though. What you're doing is so serious.

  • sparrowdown
    sparrowdown

    Wake up man, it's a cult!

    Most of us wouldn't be on this site now if someone had of warned us. 

    Take heed,  we know of what we speak.

  • Kulotti79
    Kulotti79

    rebel8: your kind of nasty there. No I'm not a pedophiles just because of knowing the abuse that has happened and still find the JWs interesting and many members of my family are not pedophiles either just because they have continued going the Catholic Church. 

    Everyone else: Thank you for your comments. I know eventually I will have to stop studying and attending meetings.  I would never suppress me being gay for an courupt American religious sect.  But, for now I will go a long with it and enjoy the fake fellowship. 

  • rebel8
    rebel8
    Oh. I thought you were aware of the difference between the pedophilia scandal in the jw org and the pedophilia scandal in the RC org. I guess not. There's something to read up on, then.
  • joe134cd
    joe134cd
    Kaik= I can relate a similar story to a sister dying in the Hall that i attended and it wasn't until sometime later I found out.  Anyway I was in this religion for just under 40 years, so I have seen a lot of water go under the bridge.  Trust me if you are not performing up to their expectations, with out good reason they will drop you faster than a hot potato. In the last few years in that Org I never went out, I had no visitors. It's funny because now that I've left my social circle has increased. 
  • joe134cd
    joe134cd
    I deeply regret having spent so much time in this religion, and their advise has deeply impacted my life. 
  • Kulotti79
    Kulotti79
    Abuse is abuse is there rebel8 ... Enough

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