Even if a God did exist, there are no absolutesOh yeah.....what if he absolutely existed?......Huh...waddabout that? mac
Even if a God did exist, there are no absolutes
by logansrun 62 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Mac
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onacruse
Very interesting thread!
There can be no absolutes, for finite beings; and an infinite being (whoever/whatever that may be) is incapable of logically transmitting an "absolute" to a finite being; it's a simple matter of capacity of the receptacle; and insofar as some small vestige of such an "absolute" could be transmitted to a finite being, that finite being couldn't possibly pass on to another finite being, in any meaningful way, such a revelation.
Plato's Euthyphro is but one small example of how many thousands of years this issue has been hashed, and, of course, Kant is a good followup.
This is not a matter of "mere philosophy," but of the reality of our existence.
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LittleToe
How are you defining the word "absolute"?
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rem
>>Y'know, Pyrrho would probably be disgusted with how far skepticism has come. It's a pretty useless branch of philosophy, and it just leads to uselessness in society.
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Do you even realize what type of skepticism Pyrrho advocated? *That* was useless and self defeating. I don't know of any skeptics that follow in the steps of Pyrrho any longer.
Skepticism today is not so much a philosophy in a strict sense, but rather a practical way of filtering beliefs. Basically what skepticism comes down to today is "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
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LittleToe
That would be the JWD version of skepticism.
I suspect there are nearly as many flavours of skepticism as there are religions -
logansrun
Well, this really is an interesting topic with many deep philosophical thoughts by all. But, I just wanted to say one thing. I like to look at naked women. There. I said it.
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LittleToe
Ahhhh!!! ~breathes sigh of relief~
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Puternut
Logan,
But, I just wanted to say one thing. I like to look at naked women.
What makes you think that's an absolute?
In an "absolute" way, you can't. Immanuel Kant made this clear in his distinction between the noumenon (the world as it is in it's totality) and the phaneron (the world as we subjectively experience it). We will never -- ever! -- see reality from an "absolute" standpoint. We will always have the inadequacies and biases of our subjective experience.
Another example: Solid things appear solid, right? Common sense. But, in actual fact, there is far more empty space in any solid object than there is matter. Does that mean our perspective is wrong? No. It does mean that there is more than one.
Quoting yourself.....
Puternut
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Puternut
BTTT..... waiting for an answer on his 'logic'..............
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LittleToe
bttt - coz I'd like to hear the answer to that, too