by Nathan Natas 78 Replies latest watchtower scandals
XQ, why do you veiw paedophilia as casual as you veiw those who have a fetish? Your views would be widely accepted by only paedophiles, I doubt anyone would except them elsewhere.
You are either winding people up or have no value of children.
Brummie
Zen:
I appreciate your candor.
Society has a history of either curing or making examples, of people, in an effort to dissuade certain behaviours.
Do you mind telling me how you suggest "curing" a paedophile?
If nothing else, this thread (and almost every thread which deals with pedophiles/child molesters/child rapists) ends up in arguments and/or insults.
What? I don't see that happening in most other threads dealing with this topic. Show me where that is the case, if possible. Thank you
Zen:
I appreciate your candor. Society has a history of either curing or making examples, of people, in an effort to dissuade certain behaviours.
Do you mind telling me how you suggest "curing" a paedophile?
it may be that like other addictions and urges, a cure may not be found, only a way to manage... there are lots of alternatives never explored because the focus has been too much on punishment rather than cure... it may be found that chemical castration will do the trick, it may be found that some other means may work like re-imprinting using things like LSD, a serious study of which has been halted by lawyers rather than doctors or scientists.
I do not pretend to know what the eventual cure may be....but that does not invalidate my point that too many are just as mentally imbalanced in their approach to their fellow man as the ones they claim we need to exterminate or other wise harm.
The ?cure? really is simple. The pedophile must learn that there urges are deviant and hurt their victims (this is very hard for pedophiles to understand), impulse control, and the will to control their impulses.
Castration is silly and should be used for therapeutic means.
Sadly people try to make it more complicated than it is. The problem is there is no ethical method to achieve all 3 of these goals with out violating the rights of the person in question and then there is still no guarantee. Also people truthfully are not that interested in protecting children from pedophiles at ALL cost. So far the demand is not there went it comes to dollars and cents. We have the technology to reduce recidivism but there are so many sex offenders that nobody wants tackle the problem. The quick fix is simply put them in places where there are no children. It does not even have to be a prison. Guys in the pacific in ww2 went months with out seeing the opposite sex for example.
Good point, XJW
I also take exception with this:
B. Recovered memories are experienced as very real. Those who are disturbed with such memories need understanding and care. These are memories that have been forgotten many years and then recovered by therapeutic treatment that either has been carried out by a professional psychologist or by a self taught psychotherapist.
Not necessarily true, my memories started up all on their own, vividly! No therapy required to have the memories, just to try to sleep afterwards. They are clearly parading their ignorance for the world to see.
NN
Yes, I would be interested in more on the the tax break slant to this subject.
TO the pedophile apologists: Either you don't know what you're talking about, or you DO know what you're talking about, which is a scary thought!
talesin
I have no problem with pedophiles BTW it is not any more a "disease" as homosexuality. Pedophillia is just a fetish. Since most pedophiles are hetrosexual it is not like are sexually flustrated because they can't have sex. I think there is too many TV movie stereotypes about them. Many pedophiles are in adult realships while they abuse children. I don't have a problem with a pedophile in feild service. I have a problem with a criminal in feildservice. He can preach in Jail too.
We allow a wide range of opinions on this forum but there are limits to what is acceptable. Trying to claim that Pedophilia is 'just' a fetish and not a big deal and equating it to homosexuality is crossing that line IMO
I suggest you keep such opinions to yourself in future because they are NOT welcome on this site and show gross disrespect to any who have suffered abuse.
We have the technology to reduce recidivism
Such as?
From simple large facial tattooing, to tracking implants, to AV collars with monitoring net work. Basicaly city wide house arrest. With camera phones all the range the pedophile wont have the excuse well I could not get to a phone. Heck a few off duty predator drones coulds fill in too. Most sex ofenders use stealth and oppertunity if you deny them oppertunity and make them stick out you can reduce their recidivism rate.
If this sounds sci-fi the sad thing is all of this is proven tech it is here, but is has no demand to track pedophiles like Alqeada. You could prevent many sex crimes, but I assume most people would rather spend the money on longer jail terms and more jails something that has been tried and failed in the case of many pedophile sex offenders. Personaly I would rather have a sex ofenders outside knowning they can't get away with a crime. Than guys inside waiting to get out to prey on kids.
XQs:
So now these "fetishists" should bear facial tattoos?
How might that compliment Zen's cure-therapy?
