Elder Gives Talk About "Unbelievers" & "Unbeliever" Calls Him An "Asshole" (page 3)

minimus

......didn't get a chance to ask him yet........like 2 tho.

mustang

I went through the same thing with my father. He would pull stuff behind my back, send people to drag me back to the KH, spy on me and all of that. Then I would call him out on it.

Twice, over years, I thought that we had "made peace". A month or two later, he would chew me out because the local spies hadn't seen me at the meetings. It came down to when I smoothed things over with him, he assumed I would start the meetings again. I never said any such thing.

So, the last time we got to that point he said, "you forgive, don't you"?

I replied "NO"!!!!

He seemed stunned and basically assumed that I had to forgive him and muttered something to that effect.

I said, "I'm not going to let you go on it this time. All you ever do is use the forgiveness as an excuse to re-start the whole mess. So, I'm leaving things the way they are. You are only going to keep interfering with my life anyway. That is because you are a jerk."

Sadly, this state of affairs is the way I had to leave things. It will never be reversed, as he died in recent times. So, now I have peace on this matter.

The consolation I have is that it became obvious that he had borderline mental problems causing him to be socially incapable of dealing with other people. So, perhaps he was not responsible for his actions.

It is necessary to make a point with them or "draw the line" sometimes, somewhere. That point frequently has nothing to do with any doctrine. It frequently is all about the JW being unkind and lacking humanity.

Mustang

ApagaLaLuz

LOL at Min...... I went to a witness funeral about a month ago, and as a walked out I listened to people's reactions. There were several "worldy" ones there. I heard one lady say "10 mintues devoted to her, 30 minutes devoted to their religion. Did that seem weird to you?"

To which the other replied "Yeah, I go to church on Sunday, I dont need them trying to preach to me."

Interesting insight minimus. I always wondered if was more helpful or hurtful to the Worldlies :)

95stormfront

he says "fine by me but why don't you get off your ass and be a responsible father and look after your Kids spirituality!"

Oh.....their would've been as Ass-kicking on the way to this guy.

Maverick

The treatment of non-JW's never set well with me. I could not picture Jesus using this mind-set. In fact all scripture points to the opposite. I just could not figure it out. It was only after being on the other side of the fence and being able to learn about the WTS that I realized the JW's are not even Christian so what Jesus did and taught does not apply.

They treat my daughter worse than they talk about me. I say talk because the big cowards NEVER give me crap to my face! They are always very nice and friendly. But they are mean and hateful to her, even her mother!

I guess being the child on a WTS apostate is worse than being a WTS apostate! Loosers with a caputal L! Maverick

xjw_b12

Would have had a lot better effect if the the "unbelieving" husband had stood up in the KH and announced that!

Pleasuredome

talk about stumbling. of course that would never be admitted.

buffalosrfree

My daughter and her husband were at the kh and hearing the term wordly, he asked what is that, they dont seem to give

it a good conotation (spelling). I told him before my wife tried to smooth it over that it was a term they used for anyone not in the cult. So he says I dying to them then, yes i replied he and my daughter have never returned there, they don't realize or dont care just how their words affert people. MOst of them are cowards at heart when you take things to them personally then they have knees that turn to jelly. I dont mind a good physical fight and i have let them know about it, and that, a fight is what they will be facing if they try and mess with me, i will get physical, no problem. They dont like to debate as i use a lot of thier own pubs against them I never say anything untoward but have told them specifically a couple of elders that I dnt like them trying to pry into my persnal business. I have been gone so long now that they look away when i run into them out in public. Assholes, rectum circles, jdubs, they are all the same.

minimus

Some people think being "worldly" is a good thing. Perhaps, if they went to a meeting for the 1st time, they might think they're being complimented.

blondie

In 1998 about the time the WTS had an article cautioning JWs not to say "the Society says" but rather "the Bible says" they started trying to eliminate the application of the adjective "worldly" to people, only ideas and things. While they had control of what appears in the publications, they could not eradicate the deeply entrenched vocabulary of JWs. The acceptable new term was supposed to be "non-witnesses." This ihas had limited if no success. It is a word game. The WTS continues to teach that all non-witnesses or worldly people are soon to be birdfood.

Blondie

Elder Gives Talk About "Unbelievers" & "Unbeliever" Calls Him An "Asshole"

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