Hi Yiz! I believe I already have -indirectly when I wrote in reply to you response to Franklin's story. I will repeat it just in case you missed it.Because someone's views have changed over the years does not make what decisions that were discussed in the past any less signifiant in the matter of choice, he/she, they, still had the option of choice when they wanted to exercise it. CassiDo you know how many people in prison have become born again christians? Just about all of them say.. "I found God.. therefore forgive me for my sins, release me", and this somehow changes the past!?!?! Does that erase what they did to begin with Yiz? I honestly do not care that she 'found God' in her own words, it does not change that both God and I can exercise our 'right to choose'. If as I said to Genericman if what you are saying is based on religion-- which it seeems her stance is, then what does it mean to you that God killed babies (a fetus) before abortion was legal? That it is his choice and his alone? I find it hard to believe that a benevolent god can judge those who 'choose' as he did, as harshly as those like yourself who judge those who wish to choose-- as a benevolent God did.
First, I was talking about a different person, Norma is not Franklin, I wanted a perspective on Norma alone rather just just carry Franklin's story in the same heap as Norma. Seconly, I wanted your input on Norma's story and I wanted to know what you thought of it, be a critic if you want, but at least on the perspective of it. Now about prisoners who convert to Christianity, true, some do that to try to weasle their way out of prison rather than taking the punishment doled out to them on the day they got sentenced in court. But some do actually convert to Christianity on the basis that some do feel actual remorse for what they had done. Take the Son of Sam case, this man is a genuine convert to Christianity and guess what? He doesn't want to be released from prison, even when a parole board come out for his parole, he wrote a letter to the board requesting that he'd be denied for parole, he also stated that he doesn't want his freedom. He felt that he truely deserves to remain in prison for the rest of his life for what he had done. But on the other hand, he has his true freedom, freedom from sin and death (eternal seperation from God), because he gave his life to Jesus Christ, who alone died for our sins so that we can truly be free. I'm talking about true spritual freedom, a kind of freedom that not even prison bars can hold it down. There's a difference between physical freedom and spiritual freedom. Here's his prison blog... http://www.forgivenforlife.com/ Karla Faye Tucker, the woman who was executed in Feburary 3rd, 1998, a former prositute and drug abuser, who axe murdered two of her victims. The prison minstry there at death row showed her Jesus' love and mercy and she accepted Him. Despite of the fact that after years on death row, she knew that she may very well be executed for her crimes. She accepted it, was ready to die, but felt that she may be needed here while on earth to help others, because her heart was pouring out for other fellow prisoners on death row. So she asked for clemency so she can continue her work, they said no. Even then Gov. Bush who later became President told her no. So she resigned to the fact that God was really calling her home. Bush cried (if you seen his announcement live on the news the day he visited death row to break the news to her personally) knowing she'll be executed, but at the same time he had to make a stand against crime and she had to be no exception, which was of course understandable under these circumstances. She did the crime and she had to pay for it. But at the end, she's free and she's home with the Lord. Oh by the way, she married the prison minister who won her heart to Jesus. The day she died, she sang "Amazing Grace" as poison was injected into her veins. The bottom line is, the answer to your question, does it change the past? No, it does not. They did the crime and they have to pay for it, even the law of God demands it (in the flesh while on earth), but at the same time, those that accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior becomes free in the spirit, so even while the body is put to death for the crime(s) they have committed, the spirit is set free to return home to the Lord. So there's a seperation of facts between physical and spiritual states. Of course, if man or woman outright rejects Jesus as the only source and means of salvation, then of course, that's the judgement between Jesus and man (or woman that is). Yiz