by Sirona 42 Replies latest jw friends
Sirona,
I wish I had some specific questions -- I just don't even know much about the basics, yet ! lol
There is obviously so much detail and history behind y'alls very specific terminology...which I just don't know. It's like (no offense meant) JW speak, unless you know the terms, you'll be lost in the conversation. Especially when there are differing viewpoints.
I think I've got a headache...lol
Keep up our education...lol
Ah, Here's one...define "Magic."
Some witches practice divination of one form or another. This isn't an attempt to foretell the future, but rather an excercise which clarifies the eventual outcome of the particular set of choices one has made. If one doesn't like where that path is going, one may choose to make different choices, effectively "stepping onto another path".
Very well said!
As for magic, or magik, to me its as profound as turning water into wine and as simple as seeing a newborn puppy. Magic is that spark between two souls and the sunset over the Olympic Mountains. To work magic is to take your spiritual senses and channel them or focus them on a desired result. Much like the description above.
Sherry
oops, I better clarify, I don't personally know anyone that has turned water into wine, I'm just saying thats what would be the explanation for the miracle.
Sherry
i know the word in storybook sense, but what exactly is witchcraft?
Okay, yall....I have a question for ya....
How does one discover whether one has any talent for witchcraft...or whether one is a witch or descendant of witches? I'm Celtic, so I'm really curious (English, Irish and Scottish ancestry here).
Frannie B
The county of Lancashire in the North of England is famous for witchcraft - as of course is Salem MA
Hi
I live in Lancashire, England. (before you ask why it says Greater Manchester - its because I live in Lancs but its very near Manchester itself).
Ok. Here is my definition of Witchcraft. "The practise of affecting one's outer environment using visualisation processes and manipulation of energy. Physical tools are used help facilitate this process" This definition must not be confused with the religious beliefs of those following pagan paths (the religious beliefs are a way of life and not just a "practise" of doing something).
See now its clearer! LOL. OK to make it clearer: I see a spell as a "prayer with props". Say for instance you do a spell for prosperity, what you are actually doing is attempting to draw toward yourself energies which will allow prosperity into your life. Witches recognise that if they are financially struggling, there is some underlying responsibility upon the witch herself for this situation. She then attempts to clear out whatever is blocking her from being prosperous. This may mean a change in herself, or a change with regard to her job. Perhaps someone at work is holding her back? Perhaps it's her attitude toward that person. Therefore she uses creative visualisation to address the issue.
Expanding further upon this example: the witch might decide to gather together physical items to help her focus on this goal. Since money relates to the earth element (remember what I said about "as above, so below"? everything is connected on some level) she might gather "Earth" related items, such as crystals, plants (&herbs), items with earthy colours etc. and she may also consider the astrological aspects such as moon phase, what sign the moon is currently in, what sign the sun is currently in, etc. She may also use numbers relating to the goal. There are many other types of considerations but I'll leave it at that for now. Basically this process helps to facilitate psychological and "energy" changes which will help the prosperity to enter her life.
When she has gathered her tools and worked out that the time is right, she will use the tools to focus and raise / release energy. This part is the hardest and it can take years to practise and gain the focus required. It also can take years of practise to "see" or "feel" the energy and know how/if/why the spell worked or didn't. THAT is why someone who reads a love spell out of a book and buys the pink petals and the lavendar usually finds that their spell doesn't work - because it isn't about the petals and the lavendar - its about the person's intent and focus!
Sometimes an inexperienced person can produce results, if they have enough desire for the goal and especially if the goal is a true need.
So that is my definition of the practise of Witchcraft. If you're going to do something like that it does of course stand to reason that you'll have certain beliefs, but I do not think that Witchcraft in itself is a religion. I've met witches who were raised to use these techniques even though it did not relate to religion at all. I don't even think one of them observed any seasonal changes or anything like that. Wicca, on the other hand, involves Gods and faith and does not require spellworking at all.
Sirona
Frannie
How does one discover whether one has any talent for witchcraft...or whether one is a witch or descendant of witches? I'm Celtic, so I'm really curious (English, Irish and Scottish ancestry here).
Anyone can practise witchcraft. There are individuals who seem to have more psychic ability than others, but I tend to think that witchcraft is learned and not an innate ability.
As for being a descendant, I guess only family history would tell you. Past life regression might help you find out if you were a "witch" in a previous life.
Sirona
/surfaces
I do so enjoy reading these threads each time they come up - in fact, I've started a couple. The influx of new members always keeps the dialog interesting - thanks Sirona for bringing the topic up again!
/submerges back to 'lurk' mode
