intolerance (page 3)

AlanF

As far as your basic question: No.

As far as general comments: assholes will be assholes no matter where they spew.

AlanF

Euphemism

Abaddon wrote:I can't stand intolerance.

"There are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!" -- Tom Lehrer

Seriously... the excrement that goes down on the ex-JW boards is the same sort of excrement that goes down in online communities all the time. For that matter, it happens in RL groups too; it's just more overt online because of the medium.

It's probably true that there is some level of repressed aggression in a lot of ex-JWs becaue of our cult experiences; but the "intolerance" (or whatever you want to call it) on the boards is by no means unique to ex-JWs.

StinkyPantz

bisous

Satanus

As an x i am much less tolerant. As a jw, i tolerated all kinds of stupidity. I made room for people i didn't like. Vieled insults didn't register well through my washed brain. Stupid ideas allowed to enter my mind and patiently refuted. A fake person i had no problem socialising w in my fake joviality. I went along w many activities that were against my nature: public speaking, door to door sales, conducting bible studies. I don't have time for any of that anymore.

Bullshit? I don't wanna hear it. Manipulators, users and scammers are not welcome anywhere near me. As a jw, i put up w bs and i tried to help manipulators, users and scammers.

S

frenchbabyface

Depends on who anyway ...

teejay

The reader is lead to believe that it was those "other people" who were "not particularly fond of JWD or, more to the point, it's ownership". You neglect to mention that you were one of the most vocal of that membership in that regard and for a very long time you were publically and scathingly trashing JWD's ownership, several of it's mods and some of it's membership... I don't believe it is unusual for people to be intolerant of that kind of behavior whether they've ever been a JW or not. -- xenawarrior

Yeah what xenawarrior said! Then there are those who have selective memory...... Teejay you wanna play by your own set of rules, then call foul -- bikerchic

Hmmm. xenawarrior and bickerchic speaking with one mind. Wow. Don't believe I've ever seen *that* before!! That said, while I accept your position that y'all feel it's sometimes acceptable to be intolerant, it appears that you two ladies (entirely, woefully, pitifully) missed the essential point of what we're talking about. Allow me to break it down for you.

While it's true that I was once one of Simon's (not JWD's) greatest detractors, that is really beside the point of this discussion. The point of this discussion is to illustrate that, by and large, a group that I once found camaraderie with have taken upon themselves to denounce me for exercising a freedom to post at a place they once posted but now despise. Can you not see how that is analogous to ex-JWs denouncing people (loyal JWs) who in many ways resemble the person they themselves once were?

I could be wrong (and I doubt xenawarrior will ever be able to fully understand), but weren't you bikerchic once like me ? a loyal JW? How hypocritical, not to mention judgmental and intolerant, it would be if you or I now ridiculed a loyal JW who happened upon JWD. Don't you think so?

While we might despise the particulars of what they believe, wouldn't/shouldn't we at least understand their mindset... even empathize with them, understanding perhaps better than most why the JW believes, speaks, and acts as they do?

That's what we're speaking of here. Not so much what or where something is said, but an understanding and, more importantly, an ACCEPTANCE of why it's said.

Golf

Could it be, "Tooooooooooooooo many Chiefs and not enough Indians?" Guest77

xenawarrior

Hmmm. xenawarrior and bickerchic speaking with one mind. Wow. Don't believe I've ever seen *that* before!! That said, while I accept your position that y'all feel it's sometimes acceptable to be intolerant, it appears that you two ladies (entirely, woefully, pitifully) missed the essential point of what we're talking about. Allow me to break it down for you.

Funny, I was using my mind and I'm sure Kate was using her own as well. We just happened to see the same thing and perhaps have a similar reaction to it. And I don't think we missed the "essential point" in any way and your self-appointed role as "teacher" is misguided.

While it's true that I was once one of Simon's (not JWD's) greatest detractors, that is really beside the point of this discussion.

If it is "really beside the point" there was no reason to "use" it at all. Although it was an interesting, albeit, pathetic segue to your "real" point, it certainly wasn't essential to making that point. You could have used a multitude of other "examples" or simply asked the question and I doubt anyone here would have been confused.

I could be wrong (and I doubt xenawarrior will ever be able to fully understand),

There is no reason to worry about what I am able to fully understand since your " from whence we came" concept is not unique to JWs or exJW's or any religion at all. IMO, it is part of being a responsible adult to accept the consequences of our behavior instead of trying to rescript it for others in an effort to make us look differently or to make us more comfortable with the outcome. The reaction you got from others was not unusual and would be the natural consequences of behaving in an abhorrent and extreme manner and then turning around and saying "*Poof*, I feel differently about it now-it's all good-forget about all that I did or said before".

XW

minimus

XW sings, "TELL LIKE IT IS>>>>>>>>>>>"

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