I Need Some Serious Help Please !!!!!!

by Peterpanippleskin 101 Replies latest jw friends

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Peter Pineapple said, in this thread:

    . My IQ, if you understand IQ's, has absolutely nothing to do with being perfect or superior over anyone. I am a scientist and an inventor of new products with a few patents. I have the ability to "see" a product or invention in its completed form before it is even drawn onto paper for the first time..

    Then over at Slippy's, he said:

    I did not report the abuse because I did not know about it. I was a trucker for the last 18 years. My brother never told me about this abuse until recently. Only this weekend he told me that she is throwing knives and glass dishes at him... and he showed me his nose and broken glasses.
  • NewLight2
    NewLight2

    Just some general 'netiquette' help here, Hal,

    When someone types in 'ALL CAPS' for the entire message, it is considered 'bad taste', because it is like shouting at someone in typing.

    Also it is considered 'bad taste' to post someone's private email or PM without permission from the original sender, ie do NOT copy and paste any emails you have from your brother to anyone without getting his permission.

    The exception to this rule being if the email or PM did not contain personal information. If someone sends you a url, news story, joke etc., usually that is ok to share in a public setting. Also it is considered 'bad taste' to forward personal emails, the exception being the same as above. But even there you must be careful not to disclose the original sender's private info such as is contained in the email header (the top part of an email where the sender's addy is).

    For more information, it might be well to use a search engine for 'netiquette'.

    Now to change the subject to JW'isms:

    If you want to get a quick picture of what it is like to live life as a 'dub' in 'dubland' (JW - JWland), a reading of George Orwell's books "1984" and "Animal Farm" will give you a very, very good idea.

    Big Brother = Watchtower Society, elders
    Thought Police = Watchtower Society, elders

    I'm sure you'll get the idea! There are 'spies' everywhere in dubland. and these 'spies' consider it their god-given right and duty to report everything that they see and hear to the elders.

    An 'out-of-print' book title by Heather and Gary Botting said it ALL - "The Orwellian World of Jehovah's Witnesses". The book was published by University of Toronto Press in 1984 ISBN 0-8020-6545-7. If you are lucky you may be able to find a copy to read using your local Library's Inter-Libary-Loan (ILL) function. Just ask at the Reference Desk and they will take it from there.

    NewLight2

  • Incense_and_Peppermints
    Incense_and_Peppermints
    I believe you... but "serving your time" and remarrying can not possibly be allowed under the JW doctrine... can it?

    apparently child and spousal abuse ARE. i get so sick of reading these posts about people agonizing over whether to stay or go and how would it look etc. when there are children being viciously abused by their own parents ! if he doesn't want to contact the "secular" police, why can't he go to an elder and say hey my wife is abusing my daughter and me. huh? your concern in misplaced peter...it belongs first and foremost with that girl, and no one else. err...

    edited to add: i know the elders won't do anything but at least its on them now...they can't plead ignorance of the situation.

  • NewLight2
    NewLight2

    E-man,

    I know that you think that sounds like a contradiction to you, but let me assure you, it just could be on the up and up.

    I have an extremely brainy friend who holds a PHD in Physics and he choose to work for a grocery supplier in the office as a PART-TIME data-entry person. He even turned down the opportunity for more responsibility within the company. He did this because his head was so busy thinking of his own scientific projects and he did not want 'work duties' to get in the way of that thinking.

    Another aspect to consider is this: My friend could not find work in his field so he applied for anything that would pay the bills. He was usually informed by the person doing the interviewing that he was 'just too over-quallified' for the position when applying for anything un-scientific.

    NewLight2

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    New Light,

    Yes, you could be correct, I don't dispute that. It just seems to me that this whole tale is becoming more and more unlikely IMHO. It may have it's basis in some truth and has since become very exaggerated with the telling.

    Englishman

  • NewLight2
    NewLight2

    All of you guys are MISSING the reason he came to these boards in the first place.

    He came asking for information and understanding about the JW Religion. He did NOT come in here asking a DB to solve his brother's problems.

    Now how about stopping all the bickering and help this man understand WHY his brother is so messed up in his thinking! Help Hal understand what the dub religion does to one's thinking abilities. THAT is what he wants to find out.

    NewLight2

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    With more than due respect, this guy is almost certainly full o' doo doo, and even if he does have a blind brother that drives his blind, man beatin' wife around, he's a truck drivin' space man of a wanker who is wasting other people's time.

    This db is full of information for anyone that has even the slightest bit of sincerity in learning. He can join any number of discussions with specific questions (along with his own anecdotes, his brother is a witness afterall) if he really has any.

  • Peterpanippleskin
    Peterpanippleskin

    OK everyone... here it is. My brother has a binocular that is inset in his glass lense so that he can drive. Yeah... "sure he does." You know... I am getting to the point that it really doesn't matter anymore. I thought that I could come here for good information... which, NewLight2 fully understands what I am asking for... yet the rest of you do not understand. That's fine. I read the internet edicate that NewLight2 posted for me and I am thankful for that. I don't know everything. I have only shared with everyone 100% honesty and truth and it is so apparent that nearly all of the people here are simply not reseptive to me or this situation. I accept.

    I am going to move on, having realized that the information on how to help me to help my brother to escape from the grip of the JW cult without him realizing what I am doing has apparently escaped your memories or your ability to inform someone like myself. I accept. As for me, the following is true. Laugh, make fun, hoot, hollar, be cruel, say what you want....... I've had enough... thank you.

    I could not have been anymore real.

    There is a man named Dave on the other website who called my home this morning for the second time. He spoke with my mother. My mother verified everything that I have written. All of it. Even the following events which explain my own background and the "confusion" (doubt) that you seem to have found regarding my Trucking Career and Science. This entire post has become NOT about helping me... but about proving to all of you if I am for real or not. I did not come here for that. I have enough to take care of and deal with right now. I do not have that kind of energy, nor should anyone ever expect that a "newbie" should have to "prove themselves" for the sake of your own entertainment. My situation is a serious one and nearly all of you have dropped the ball, except for ONE. NewLight2 understood clearly and realized the truth and honesty of what I was saying and asking for. The rest of you have hastled me, for the most part... and I am now quite tired, to say the least. I am only human. The following is what I wrote at the other website to clarify for them, too, of my honesty and sincerity. I am too tired right now to go on. You have no idea, or maybe you do, of how exhausting it is to keep up with all of this bickering... when what I needed was real help regarding the inner workings of the thought processes for which my brother is a victim of. I must free him because he is too far gone to free himself. If you can not understand that... then ... I accept.

    Thanks anyway.

    Hal.

    "I am so glad that you asked all of these things. I will try my best to explain all of this. Please bear with me... and thank you:

    When I was a very young boy I always wanted to drive a semi. I graduated BARELY from high school in 1982. My father was an extremely abusive man, who... by-the-way, raped me at age six. My self-esteem was extremely low and as a result of the rape I used to crap my pants until the age of sixteen. There is a medical term for this, although I do not know what the term is. It is a long name. I am sorry, but I just do not know the name. However, I overcame the rape and saught therapy for years to reparent myself. When I was 21 I went to truck driving school and began my life-long dream of trucking until my father passed away in 2002. My mother is old and she is also blind. I am ONE of 7 children. Three of us have my fathers genes and we are sighted. Four of them, including my brother, are legally blind. They have my mothers genes. My father was an inventor. He was also a self-taught fleet mechanic. He was an intelligent man. He taught himself mechanics and eventually was asked to be a professor of mechanics at a university... but he turned it down. He retired from mechanics and began a retirement business in the food service industry, at which, he and my mother recieved several awards from the state of Michigan for entrepeneurship in small business. The made over six million dollars in 10 years and it is attributed to my fathers intelligence... since he had only finished the 8th grade when he quit school to take care of his parents and siblings.
    I take after my father in intelligence. I am proud of my 142 IQ, although I can see that it upsets people whenever I mention it. However, I also realize that an IQ is not all that it is cracked up to be. I am still only human and I struggle in the social world.
    While trucking, I studied science, math and physics and became a self-taught scientist of space and space exploration. My uncle used to be a master electician for NASA in California where he wired the spaceships for NASA. He retired from there and became THE trouble-shooter for Consumers Power in the ENTIRE state of Michigan. When Consumers Power had a problem HE WAS THE ONLY ONE that was THE troubleshooter for the entire state when no one else could figure it out.
    While trucking, I studied and read and taught myself math and science, as I said. My grades in school were terrible because of the problems of abuse that I had at home. It is not surprising to me that my brother married an abusive spouse, therefore. As for me, now that I care for my mother, I have a woodshop in my garage and I have invented several products and hold only a few patents for those products. I continue to study science and I hold a theory to the evolution of energy and spacetime. When I was only 8 years old I understood and could easily explain Einstiens Theory of Relativity to anyone who would ask me about it. Today, my theory of energy evolution and spacetime relativity is not known to anyone, except for what I have written about it... and have not yet released to the public. In a nutshell, I will say this much... and you all heard it here first:
    I promise you that, the Speed of Light is Equal to the Resistence of Time.
    In otherwords, Light is not a constant as science believes it to be. Spacetime is also not a constant. The resistance of time, Time as we know it, is relative... and that the speed of light is simply a relative measurement of that resistence. Therefore, to exceed the speed of light is absolutely possible within the correct warp in time or spacetime. I have been working with quantum physics to prove this, but it is not that easy. I am sure that I can do it alone.
    YES. She is big. She can move quite fast for her size, actually. He will NOT hit her or beat on her. He refuses to hit her. He refuses to leave her... until now... again... for the second time. He is nearly blind, and she is worse off than he is. Blind people are not incapable of moving around as sighted people do. My mother cooked and cleaned and raised 7 children and she is nearly blind. My brothers wife does the same in her home, as well. She is big, mean and vicious. My brother had back surgery and he has had heart problems in the past. He is strong, but refuses to be pysically or mentally abusive to her. Even in his own defense. He even refuses to call the police when she beats on him or their daughter.
    When it comes to travelling "only 70 miles" to his home... I have a mother to care for and a home to maintain. I have other obligations, as well, that do not allow me the freedom to leave like that. My brother has only recently been in contact with me regarding this "latest" abuse. I am certain that it has been taking place for quite a long time!
    I hope that this helps to answer your questions. If not... PLEASE ask me ANYTHING and you will see that what might sound contradictory or false will be shown to be true and accurate... if I am asked to clarify things for you or anyone else who is still uncertain.
    THANK YOU for asking.
    P.S. Regarding 6 million dollars in 10 years. They retired with 1 million as 5 million went back into the business. The remaining one million went out to purchase two homes, healthcare, insurance, a few investments, personal family loans as high as $25,000. to one family member and the remaining money (not much) is in my mothers bank. We are not "rich" and there is no money for attorneys and such that we are comfortable "wasting" if it is not necessary.
    Hal"

    I'll be gone now. I am tired. I am tired of struggling with all of you and my own attempt to free my brother at the same time.

    Hal.

  • Peterpanippleskin
    Peterpanippleskin

    Please do not ask me anymore. I am done. I am too tired to keep going this way with all of you. Instead of inspiration... it is negative and draining. I can not find the energy to continue here with this continuous "proving" and bickering. I know where to go to find the books that were suggested to me here by NewLight2. Thank You Newlight2. If you want to... go to the other website and talk to Dave. He called and spoke with my mother. I am simply exhausted.

    Thanks!

    Hal

  • christopherrobin
    christopherrobin

    The ques should be--- Why on earth would your brother tolerate that ????

    Whether he is insecure or in fear of the results of his actions to divorce, the bottom line is that HIS enabling of this situation and HIS inability to demand what is right is the problem. I am not trying to shift blame--What she is doing is completely wrong and she will have to deal with it sooner or later.

    Like I said, I don't know these people from Adam, but there has to be a moment in your life when you either accept things or change things.

    It is a shame that the way things are set up w/ JW's that these are more common than ones will admit.

    GOOD LUCK

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