What's The Best Way To Jolt A Witness' Thinking???

by minimus 52 Replies latest jw friends

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts
    Nobody's stupid enough to ignore pure logic

    lol.. some are!

    I really dont think " jolt" is the right word minimus. i think few are " jolted" into thinking. a small thing here and there made me think until eventually all the little things added up and i started looking for the big things.

  • minimus
    minimus

    It's "illogical" to become a Witness in the first place.

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    It's impossible to get a Witness to think. The reason they're Witnesses in the first place is they can't think.


  • minimus
    minimus

    No....you can get a Witness to think///Look at moi.

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    Min, you aren't a Witness. Thinking and Witnessism are mutually exclusive. You can't be a Witness and think. You can't think and be a Witness, think about it:-)

    When a person starts thinking, it's all over. They can't be a Witness anymore. Witnessism is emotion based not thinking based. It is denial of thinking based.


  • minimus
    minimus

    But there IS a time when one thinks, as a JW, "WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING? WHAT AM I T H I N K I N G ????????

  • Aude_Sapere
    Aude_Sapere

    Seed of doubt. That worked for me. And not by someone intentionally getting me to leave.

    That seed was of the extremely unloving act of dis-association. To the point of treating strangers more lovingly than 'one of our own' in their time of need.

    I started to see it as extremely hypocritical. And it was just a single thought presented by someone unintentionally.

    14 years later I got up the courage to look at apostate sites. I now wish I had done this years ago. So much MORE wasted time feeling guilty about not wanting to continue as a witness.

    Anything more than that seed of doubt and I would have completely shut down my receptors.

  • minimus
    minimus

    My mom's raising of eyebrows stems from her treatment by the "holy ones".

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    I think emotion keeps Witnesses in and it's emotion that provides the motivation to quit associating. It was emotion that kept me going to meetings and it was emotion that kept me from staying. I started to think and then did my research after I quit.

    Maybe I'm confusing rational thinking with thinking. Now you've got me thinking.



  • blueztunez
    blueztunez

    My sisters been a jw for 35-40 years or so and her hubby about the same (he was an elder but got demoted to chief bottle washer) anyway I was grilling them on the whole faithfull and discreet slave issue (to me) and strangly enough she answered her own question to me which was a scriptural quote, something to the effect that by their fruit shall you know...well I said the congregation I've been going to for 6 months strikes me as a group of ones that have a gun pointed at the back of their heads...check out their uninspired answers in the wt study or worse yet their singing (low blow I know) plus what i've heard exchanged amongst my mom's service pals led me to believe, lunch and a nice chat time was the real object of their service "work".Well after laying this on them my sis replied that "well not all congregations are the same one she says is quite zealous another material and yet another ..." I said gee sis thats what I'm getting at I don't see a whole lotta love going down plus I thought you guys (jw's) were supposed to be uniform\consistant or some such bs and that i felt this applies to the faithfull disceet slave as well...lacking uniform\consistant loving spirit. Well thats my xmas contribution to jolting ones back to freedom of religous thought.

    Question authority!

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