LMAO@garybus --- It's hard to get them thinking on their own when they are conditioned that to say anything contrary to the WTBTS is evil and a way for satan to lead them astray . That's why I think you have to remind them that their leadership is the evil slave with all the scandals and misinterpretations . I had no idea until I visited sites like this the extreme of their wayward logic and false prophesy .
What's The Best Way To Jolt A Witness' Thinking???
by minimus 52 Replies latest jw friends
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Wolfgirl
My husband helped when I was considering trying to get reinstated. (This was before I found this board and learned all the rubbish they've been spewing.) He just asked a simple question that I had no answer for. A "what if" scenario, something that I absolutely could not disprove using the Bible. It got me to thinking. Then my df'd aunt found me online, and told me about the UN thing. Snowball effect from there.
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GermanXJW
I think it is good to tell stories of other cults that are similar in their beliefs to the JW.
For example, the New Apostolic Church (which is very big in Germany) used to belief that the big A would come in the lifetime of a certain leader of theirs (the chief apostle). Well, he died and as usual nothing has happened. When the JW laugh at that I love to remind them of the "Generation"-teaching. -
ohiocowboy
What's The Best Way To Jolt A Witness' Thinking???
With A chair producing about 10,000 volts???!!!
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minimus
.......so reasoning with a JW is ineffective?
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garybuss
Min, reasoning is fine. Jolting is bad. Thinking they can think is not thinking to my way of thinking, I think.
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toreador
Just when I was thinking I had thunk it all, you guys made me think twice at what I was thinking about before I really started thinking about things.
Tor
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Scully
I don't know if it gets any JWs "thinking", per se, but I know they never seem to be able to think of anything to say when they ask you how things are going and you give them a big SMILE and tell them that your life has improved so much since you quit going to the KH. Your finances are stable (or better), your marriage is wonderful, your children are thriving, your career is fabulous, you are HAPPY, etc.
It's like they've got this huge boner to get you to go back to the JWs and were hoping to hear how miserable your life is without the JWs in it, and when they hear how great your life is without them, it makes them go limp.
I think it really bugs them that we didn't turn into that homeless, destitute, drug addicted, alcoholic, promiscuous, divorced, disease-infested, children out of wedlock Person Who Stopped Serving Jehovah? Poster Child.
Love, Scully
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minimus
I'm confused.
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Panda
IMO the JW's who've been IN for years already think about plenty of this stuff. Some stay in for security (emotional or monetary) and may even know more of the hypocrisy than you do. I found with a few friends that letting them know I would always love them and didn't hold their religion against them really made a difference (eventually anyway).