Same way we explain everything, demenz.
How does the society explain 5 more partakers at the Memorial?
by lv4fer 56 Replies latest jw friends
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Englishman
Do you think Jehovahs messed up on his count and thought he had 144,000 when he realized that he only had 143,395 and needed to add 5 more?
Anyone recall Bruce Bainbridge who posted here right until the week that he died?
He reckoned that ALL the 144,000 were replacing fallen angels. Nice interesting fella he was too.
Englishman.
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GermanXJW
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w00 1/15 p. 13 "Keep on the Watch" ***18
Sixth, the number of genuine anointed disciples of Christ is dwindling, though some will evidently still be on earth when the great tribulation begins. Most of the remnant are quite elderly, and over the years the number of those who are truly anointed has been getting smaller. Yet, referring to the great tribulation, Jesus stated: "Unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short." (Matthew 24:21, 22) Evidently, then, some of Christ?s "chosen ones" will still be on earth when the great tribulation begins. -
PinTail
Well" face it some of us love Wine and Ritz Crackers.
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jwsons
Some new talents just kick off the bums of old fellas from the heavens and they got permission from WacoTower and Dark Society to do so. Old fellas couldn't donate anymore.
jwsons
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ezekiel3
What a conundrum.
I remember 2004 Memorial "pre-season" was a heavy dose of instruction about who are really anointed, partaking, essentially "DON'T PARTAKE, YOU ARE MESSING UP OUR NUMBERS."
The memorial talk was 30 minutes of "DON'T PARTAKE" (I am not joking, but interesting because there are no "anointed" in our congregation.)
And the numbers go up. At least the WTS isn't bluffing the numbers here, although it is obvious even to WTS headquarters the partaker count is bogus.
Look for a strong article in the WT on partaking leading up to the 2005 Memorial.
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minimus
The explanation is very simple. These partakers are imposters.
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blondie
Articles like this appear before the Memorial each year without success.
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w03 2/15 pp. 20-21 What Does the Lord?s Evening Meal Mean to You? ***Why
Mistaken Assumptions12
Anointed Christians are absolutely sure that they have the heavenly calling. But what if some individuals who lack this call have been partaking of the Memorial emblems? Now aware that they never had the heavenly hope, surely their conscience will compel them to stop partaking. God would not look with favor upon anyone representing himself as a person called to be a heavenly king and priest when he knew that he really did not have such a calling. (Romans 9:16; Revelation 20:6) Jehovah executed the Levite Korah for presumptuously seeking the Aaronic priesthood. (Exodus 28:1; Numbers 16:4-11, 31-35) If any Christian comes to realize that he has wrongly partaken of the Memorial emblems, he or she should stop partaking and humbly pray for Jehovah?s forgiveness.?Psalm 19:13.
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Why might some mistakenly assume that they have the heavenly calling? The death of a mate or some other tragedy might cause them to lose interest in life on earth. Or they might desire the same destiny as a close friend who professes to be an anointed Christian. Of course, God has not assigned anyone to recruit others for this privilege. And he does not anoint Kingdom heirs by causing them to hear voices with messages to that effect.
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The false religious idea that all good people go to heaven might lead some to think that they have the heavenly calling. Hence, we need to guard against being swayed by past wrong views or other factors. For instance, some might ask themselves: ?Do I use medications that affect my emotions? Am I inclined to have deep emotions that I could misjudge??
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A few might ask themselves: ?Do I want to be prominent? Am I ambitious for authority now or as a future joint heir with Christ?? When Kingdom heirs were called in the first century, not all of them had responsible positions in the congregation. And individuals with the heavenly calling do not seek prominence or boast about being anointed. They display the humility expected of those having "the mind of Christ."?1 Corinthians 2:16.
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Some may have concluded that they have the heavenly calling because they have acquired considerable Bible knowledge. But spirit anointing does not bring extraordinary understanding, for Paul had to instruct and counsel certain anointed ones. (1 Corinthians 3:1-3; Hebrews 5:11-14) God has an arrangement for providing spiritual food for all his people. (Matthew 24:45-47) So nobody should think that being an anointed Christian gives him wisdom superior to that of those having the earthly hope. Spirit anointing is not indicated by proficiency in answering Scriptural questions, witnessing, or giving Bible talks. Christians with the earthly hope also do well in these respects.
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If a fellow believer asks about the heavenly calling, an elder or other mature Christian can discuss the matter with him. However, one person cannot make this decision for another. A person who truly has this calling does not need to ask others if he has such a hope. Anointed ones "have been given a new birth, not by corruptible, but by incorruptible reproductive seed, through the word of the living and enduring God." (1 Peter 1:23) By his spirit and Word, God implants the "seed" that makes the individual "a new creation," with a heavenly hope. (2 Corinthians 5:17) And Jehovah makes the choice. Anointing "depends, not upon the one wishing nor upon the one running, but upon God." (Romans 9:16) So how can a person be sure that he has the heavenly calling?
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Neo
Apparently, some have failed to properly discipline their young ones (Prov. 29:15). These young ones, unproperly trained, may have partaken of the emblems because they felt snacks were being offered. Or perhaps some older ones have misinterpreted the illustration of "the proper food at the proper time." (Matt. 24:45)
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Neo
?I am the fine shepherd, and I know my sheep.?
Notice they do not complete the quotation .... "and my sheep know me". Also, as the fine shepherd, it is Jesus who knows the sheep; he does not need the WTB&TS to count them for him.Eyeslice,
Very insightful remark, I have just seen it.
Where in the Bible do we read about any concern on counting those who "partook"?