Urgent! Need help - I told my parents.

by filip 311 Replies latest jw friends

  • FreeWilly
    FreeWilly

    Filip,

    You mentioned your dilema about JW's being right or wrong and the idea of you being 'brainwashed'. The best asset you can develop is the ability to think critically. Critical thinking is the the ability to draw conclusions or make judgements based on a thorough, careful, and objective review of the available evidence. It often requires you to step outside of your own preconceptions in an attempt to arrive at the truth of a matter. This can be particularly difficult if the matter you are considering threatens notions you cherish or appeals to desires you seek. Money is a classical example. Most people desire more money. When presented with an 'opportunity' that fulfills their desire for money many have cast aside critical thinking. As a result people are scammed out of their own money for the promise of much more later on. Religion too is classic. The paradise promised by the Watchtower Society is akin to winning the lottery and finding the fountain of youth, combined. Can you see what draws so many people toward this belief? It's that very 'spiritual lottery', along with health doses of manipulation, fear, and guilt, that keeps people trudging on despite clear evidence to the contrary. Countless other 'spiritual guides' make similar promises for their flocks sometimes with disasterous outcomes. The fact that the Society pushes their own brand of religion does not necessarily make it incorrect. However, realize that religion has, over the course of history, been used make make all sorts of people, of all types of intellect, believe and do things they never would have considered otherwise. I chuckled when AlanF first mentioned it, but it is so true; we are all born with Bullsh*t detectors in us. Bold claims require bold evidence. It's time to tune yours up cuz you''re going to need it. This is your best defense against 'brainwashing'.

  • gypsywildone
    gypsywildone

    most 15 year olds are easily manipulated. They don't have fully developed thinking patterns. They don't have the experience to ignore idiots. Whether Filip is easily lead isn't he whole problem ...

    This is totally untrue and ridiculous! I knew when my mother got into this jw nonsense when I was 13 years old that it was insanity & was not healthy. 13 year olds can actually think, and are conscious! He is young, but he is not stupid. You insult his reasoning abilities.

  • gypsywildone
    gypsywildone

    How do we know that any one of you might be a predator? This is EXACTLY what I was conveying in my posts of this thread. I'm pleased to see it finally got through to you.Women are predators too. sKally

    Careful skally, I saw a post the other day about trust that said "if you don't trust it's because you aren't trustworthy". Someone is liable to call you a predator . . .

  • Incense_and_Peppermints
    Incense_and_Peppermints

    lol. even if one of us was a "predator", this place is so closely monitored that they would be ratted out reeely fast. besides, i didn't see anyone offering to PM filip except FIN ... hmm...(and you're right, children's cognitive skills are developed far earlier than age 15. i was gonna press the point but i pick my battles in cyberspace, and that one just wasn't worth the energy...)

  • a friend in need
    a friend in need

    I&P,

    Again your inferior talents are showing. I never ONCE offered to pm Filip. I did say he could pm me if he wanted to ... big difference. I really didn't wonder about your motives until you inanely accused me of this.

    Now, let's read over this thread a bit:

    Jan. 19 at 16:39 ,,, YOU suggest Filip pm you. (page 7)

    Jan. 19 at 09:15 ,,, Bryan suggested a pm.

    There may be more ... I didn't check too closely. I did check though because you lied in saying "I didn't see anyone offering to PM filip except FIN ,,, hmm,,,"

    Now we see you for who you really are ... hmmmm ...

  • Valis
    Valis
    Now we see you for who you really are ... hmmmm ...

    speak for yourself. As well, I thought your "act of love" towards filip was done? Can't stay away? BWAHAHAHAH!!!

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • a friend in need
    a friend in need

    I told Filip he could pm me so checked here . I&P blatantly lied about me so ....

    Funny you didn't respond to her lying ... hmmmm ...

  • under74
    under74

    meow

  • a friend in need
    a friend in need

    I&P ... on Jan. 19 at 16:39 (page 7) you told Filip he had a PM from you ... no suggestion there .. hmmm ...

  • Valis
    Valis
    Funny you didn't respond to her lying ... hmmmm ...

    Perhaps she didn't look through all the pages of this thread and just because she didn't doesn't mean she is lying about anything. One can be mistaken and not necessarily a liar. Not something to make a big deal of when there are more important issues at hand, which apparently you are incapable of dealing with so you try and divert attention from your own apologetic stance about the Jehovah's Witness, not to mention your scare tactics with filip.

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

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