afin sorry if I have offended you with "gutter" talk. Also, that topic was about if my dad could find out about me being on this JW-discussion board site, not about porn. And no, my dad yelling at me is not the biggest problem I have had to face in my life. My dad is not evil. He lost his temper, and it wasnt the first time. And why would I be ready to disown my family just because of some advice i have gotten here. I came here for help to deal with this problem the best way possibly, and I already knew before that "this way" would not be to act like an asshole (gutter talk again sorry) to my family. Its nice to get some support here, but I wouldnt do something irrationally just because of that - get real. afin now when you are a jw, maybe I can get some other answers from you then from the ones who are not? WHY should i get out of here? Can you give me some arguments for why JWs are right? I would appreciate it since I want to view things from both sides. Filip PS: no need to read those scriptures, i've read em a dozen times.
Urgent! Need help - I told my parents.
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filip
(sorry about post above) afin sorry if I have offended you with "gutter" talk. Also, that topic was about if my dad could find out about me being on this JW-discussion board site, not about porn. And no, my dad yelling at me is not the biggest problem I have had to face in my life. My dad is not evil. He lost his temper, and it wasnt the first time. And why would I be ready to disown my family just because of some advice i have gotten here. I came here for help to deal with this problem the best way possibly, and I already knew before that "this way" would not be to act like an asshole (gutter talk again sorry) to my family. Its nice to get some support here, but I wouldnt do something irrationally just because of that - get real. afin now when you are a jw, maybe I can get some other answers from you then from the ones who are not? WHY should i get out of here? Can you give me some arguments for why JWs are right? I would appreciate it since I want to view things from both sides. Filip PS: no need to read those scriptures, i've read em a dozen times.
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Odrade
Actually, your comments make my side look good ... thank you.
Make what look good? This?:
Be glad you aren't my son, if I found out you were doing this behind my back. You think you have troubles now!
I think this says it all. Actually, I think it bears repeating... keep in mind this comment is made by a fine JW Christian SISTER... (if I have your gender right...)
Be glad you aren't my son, if I found out you were doing this behind my back. You think you have troubles now!
That's some fine teaching you have received at the Kingdom Hall, that's for sure...
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Incense_and_Peppermints
Get real! These people here have known you for a few days and you are ready to disown your own family because they 'make you feel good'?
where did you read that?
Be glad you aren't my son, if I found out you were doing this behind my back. You think you have troubles now! Did you read Ephesians 6:1,2 &3? Is that message also too unfair for you?
hmm, that sounds rather threatening...
1 Children, be obedient to YOUR parents in union with [the] Lord, for this is righteous: 2 ?Honor your father and [your] mother?; which is the first command with a promise: 3 ?That it may go well with you and you may endure a long time on the earth.? 4 And YOU, fathers, do not be irritating YOUR children, but go on bringing them up in the discipline and mental-regulating of Jehovah.
As I said before ... get out of here!!!!
why are you here...?
Now that's a real future for a 15 year old! Are you all willing to house, feed and school him for the next 5 or 10 years?
in 5 years he'll be 20; in 10 years 25...certainly old enough to take care of himself.
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a friend in need
Filip ... on Jan.6, you participated in the post by logansrun about phone sex. I didn't notice your dad being mentioned once under that topic ... so yes, you were mixed up in a porn site as that is what phone-sex is.
Your are not sorry about your 'gutter' talk because you are continuing with it.
You want arguments as to why JWs are right? There are a few people in your house who would love to answer any question you have on that.
You should get out of here because you don't belong here. This is an adult site ... there may be one for your age group. I'm sure any mod could let you know.
No one can decide for you what to do. I was your age not long ago and made some bad choices. If I can stop anyone from getting hurt, YOU, then I hope to get you going in the right direction. Don't take your family for granted ... they are the only ones you get in life.
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SixofNine
SixofNine ... you'd actually rather see him here???? Now that's a real future for a 15 year old! Are you all willing to house, feed and school him for the next 5 or 10 years?
Geez AFIN, could you be more deeply full of shit? Don't insult my or filip's intelligence with your silly false dilemas. You really ought to be ashamed. This kid at 15 is showing more reasonableness AND more intellectual honesty, than you are.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you're sincere, and I'm sure you really are in a personal little tizzy worrying for this poor 15 year old kid from across the world. But I'm not, and it isn't because I don't care. It's because I thought and grew my way out of the cult that has you, AFIN, brainwashed. Just like it had me brainwashed for 36 years.
It is sad to me, that you, AFIN, got out, and then went back in. But I see that all the time with people who just get out to rebel, sow their oats, etc. You should have thought your way out, instead you fought your way out. (an illustration about releasing a spring in a closed fist comes to mind, lol) It looks to me like filip is THINKING his way out.
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Incense_and_Peppermints
As I said before ... get out of here!!!!
No one can decide for you what to do
except you, apparently... how was filip "mixed up in a porn site'? here's what he said in logan's thread:
WTF!? This is schocking to me - you mean that 95 % of even brothers and sisters either have/ or are masturbating? Damn! Im pretty aware of that almost all "worldly" teenagers or young people were masturbating, but what youre saying is that even grown-up adultr witnesses have or are masturbating? I cant believe it! LOL
his eyes are being opened...why does that threaten you? when i was in, i never masturbated or even thought so much as one "impure" thought - and fool that i was, i thought every witness was like me.. Filip has access to the internet, which connects him with people who can relate their experiences truthfully, and to information that is not homogenized and then spoon-fed to him. on anotther note, what's wrong with healthy exploration anyway? if god didn't want us to enjoy our own bodies and share love with each other, why did he make it so pleasurable? calling something natural and beautiful dirty is what's unhealthy...
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a friend in need
Filip ... there is nothing more I can say to you. I sincerely hope you pay attention to your parents. I wish I had listened better at your age. All the best in your future ... AFIN.
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144001
AFIN:
You are, in fact too young for this site . . . As I said before ... get out of here!!!!
This isn't your board, and you have no right to make the rules here. If you don't like the rules here, it is you who ought to get out of here.
You must have missed the post I did on my being in a similar situation as you when I was your age. As it turned out, I grew up and now appreciate my mother's fine efforts
When I referred to your "mental weakness" in a prior note, this is what I was referring to. It seems to me that you left the cult, but didn't have the mental strength to overcome the brainwashing, hence your return to the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Be glad you aren't my son, if I found out you were doing this behind my back. You think you have troubles now
Given your efforts to defend the physical and mental abuse of children that I mentioned in a previous post on this thread, I feel pity for any human being with the misfortune of being your offspring.
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a friend in need
144001 ... as I said ... you have bigger problems than can be addressed here. Sorry I ruffled your feathers ... again.