by filip 311 Replies latest jw friends
AFIN, you have insulted several people in this thread and those posts were allowed to stand. You have yet to respond to any one of a number of legitimate posts directed at you, and your organization. Instead you have either ignored those posts or responded with personal attacks.
I see no double standard here. If anything you have been allowed more egregious behavior than those that you complain about. If you have a problem, again I invite you to take it up with the admin of this board.
Chris
Chris ... I am going to take the time to read over all my posts to see exactly where I've been insulting. Won't happen tonight ... it's very late here. If I did insult anyone, believe me, it was not meant to.
If I did insult anyone, believe me, it was not meant to.
Thanks. I appreciate that.
Chris
LOL at AFIN!
You, my friend, although you obviously don't know it, are a real piece of work! A classic braindead JW apologist! I'd be hard put to mimic your responses as a joke!
Valis, do go beat on Simon to restore this guy's posts!
AlanF
As I've said on previous posts, Filip is the main concern here. A few have tried to turn this into a thread where I should defend JW beliefs. If Filip wants to find answers to JW beliefs, his parents will be only to happy to help him. I keep getting told to start a new thread ... why should I? I've given Filip another side to think about ... one I hope he takes seriously.
Big Tex ... You seem to be the reasonable one here. I remember your issues about sexual abuse. I am so sorry for your pain and wish I could wipe it all out ... really. This thread isn't the place as it has no relevence to Filip's problem.
AlanF ... just so Valis doesn't delete my post, I will try to address you with a civil tongue. I used to have a brother like you. He was very short and compensated for it with a big mouth. It was a diversionary tactic he had to learn at an early age. I used to find him annoying beyond belief, but now I understand his frustration with life. I've learned to forgive him and will with you too.
WHERE IS filip, anyways? I agree with other posters here that this thread should be about filip. Could we sever this argument and put it on its' own thread? We have done it before.
WHERE IS filip, anyways?
sorry I havent been here. I went to sleep at about page 7, and now its up on 12!
for the moment Im doing pretty good. Since last monday, me and my parents havent talked about me and my worries.
I&P:
Filip, you have a PM
Do you mean, that YOU sent me a PM? Cause I havent got one from you in my inbox.
About sexual abuse: This is a topic we have long been talking about in our family, and I have always gotten the impression that all the statements about sexual abuse within the org. are false. Is that correct?
Also, my parents have always warned me, that if I ever would have any problems with them, I should NEVER go to the local communities, or my school counseler etc. cause they were afraid that the local comunities then would come and take me and my little brother away from them, as a result of them thinking my parents were treating me badly.
Can I seek the school counseler and talk with him about this, not being afraid that Im going to be removed from my family?
Also, my parents have always warned me, that if I ever would have any problems with them, I should NEVER go to the local communities, or my school counseler etc. cause they were afraid that the local comunities then would come and take me and my little brother away from them, as a result of them thinking my parents were treating me badly.
OMG, what a scare tactic! filip, the only way you would be removed from your parents is if you were in danger in their home. From what you have said, I believe there may be counceling for the family or just for you to help you cope and understand.
Your parents don't want you to say anything because the jws like to keep everything a secret in the hall and away from public criticism.
You should speak to a teacher at least, if you are having problems. It should make afin happy you are speaking to someone you know.
Bryan
Have You Seen My Mother
Filip:
While the subject of your faith, or lack thereof, has not been discussed in your home for some time, don't think it's going to fade. Most likely, mom and dad are considering how they're going to deal with this issue before proceeding.
As for the sexual abuse, it's likely that at least some of the allegations have indeed been false. There are always those who seek to profit through lawsuits. But where there's smoke, there's usually fire. Several JWs have been convicted of criminal charges associated with the abuse. That is documented, and juries believed that the accusations were proven beyond a reasonable doubt. While sexual abuse is something that likely exists in all religions, the complaint about the Witnesses is that their rules are a factor in causing the abuse to be swept under the carpet and ignored. They have chosen to involve elders to deal with these problems in the first instance, instead of professionals (such as police) who deal with this on a regular basis, and are now answering in court for that choice.
As for going to school counselors, etc., with any complaints about your parents, it depends on the laws in your area. In most of the states in the USA, it's unlikely that you would be removed from your parent's custody for anything other than physical abuse or neglect (i.e., not feeding you,etc.). But any time you go to the authorities with complaints about your parents, you are rolling the dice and there's no telling what will happen. Although I really hated my JW upbringing, in retrospect, I would never have wanted to roll the dice with foster parents. It is certainly possible that my childhood could have been much worse than it was. It's another example of a choice in life where one must choose between the lesser of two evils.
Morty: I dont really know exactly why it feels so good to skateboard. I think that its because, skateboarding lets you conentrate on the trick youre trying to make, so you forget all other problems except the one about landing the trick... maybe.
Keep on boarding my friend....If it makes you feel better, then by all means, worry about that trick your trying to land....That is what a 15 year old should be worried about....
Morty
BTW, how are you today????
