Getting out...terminating Bible study

by PClark 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • apocalypse
    apocalypse

    Before you make a decision on just how to go about it, please ask yourself this question. If you were driving home from work and saw a terrible accident and heard a child screaming for help, would you worry most about which exit to take on the highway to get home quicker?

    Do this what I tell you please and let nature take its course.

    Next study, tell her that you have a seroius question about blood. Say that you need help understanding where these "allowable fractions" come from since blood is to be poured out. (Leviticus)

    Show your research.

    http://www.baxtertransfusiontherapies.com/tt/app.jsp?_tile=products-product_detail&prdt_cd=4R4538&prdt_lne_cd=AUTOCOMP&prdt_fmly_cd=CS3000&_menu=products_menu

    Talk about the blood drive at work and how you appreciate all your co-workers donating blood so that your new JW friends can get their life saving therapies.

    You will see a pair of eyes open wide. Perhaps her mind may open also.

    And maybe you will have helped that screaming child in that wreck.

  • bisous
    bisous
    What do you mean "send others"?

    He or she may cease calling at your door, but will enlist other JWs to follow-up on your prior exhibit of interest hoping that a different style, approach, personality etc. would 'reach' you where the initial individual couldn't. JWs maintain records of territories where they call. You have the right to be noted in these records as DO NOT CALL. This is not the same as the US registry. You must do it with JWs at the KH that is in your neighborhood area. I strongly disagree with apocalypse. I would not attempt to reason, debate or discuss scripture or doctrine. This demonstrates interest, however waning. It signals the JW that if they are able to overcome this or that doctrinal objection, you will be brought into the fold. It encourages them to keep returning. And it is extremely unlikely that you would change their minds in this scenario. Most JWs leave because of a personal connection with someone else who has thus established the necessary trust for this type of discussion. Or are fading away, experiencing doubts themselves. If this individual were experiencing doubts, they wouldn't have been trying to convert you for 4 years.

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    Hello PClark

    still get away from this madness before it gets out of control.

    Not to seem trite, but it's you, and only you, that has the control over this decision; say goodbye, and good riddance.

    It's not like a squadron of FBI agents have twenty 0.50 rifles pointed at your head.

    Respectfully,

    Craig

  • NewLight2
    NewLight2

    Hi and welcome to JWD!

    Just tell them that you have been reading ASPOSTATE sites on the INTERNET and that you would like to show some of these sites to THEM at your next study.

    I'll bet that they will RUN, Run and Run away from you so fast you'll hardly see their tails behind them!

    You might want to check out these web pages:

    Jehovah's Witnesses: A Critical Analysis


    A Bible Study Outline

    These two contain many links to important information regarding the Watchtower Society.

    NewLight2's Links Page

    Johannes Greber's Home Page

    Here is one that deals with Mind Control and Cults
    Mind Control - The BITE Model

  • observador
    observador

    "She is coming to your home as a guest, so you have the right to cancel the Bible Study..... "

    PClark, I couldn't say this better.

    I was a JW for more than 20 years when elders came to my house to check on me. I was polite with them allowing them to read a few scriptures to me but in the end I told them I needed time to reevalute things with myself and needed a break.

    You don't have to be rude if you don't want to. However, YOU MAY HAVE TO BE FIRM AND CLEAR because JWs are a very persistent people.

    Good luck!

    Observador.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere
    Friday things took a more serious turn and I am very uncomfortable.

    May I ask what came up that made you uncomfortable?

  • cyber-sista
    cyber-sista

    aloha Pclark. Run for the hills!

    Seriously I don't think you are really in danger if you already know that you do not want to become involved in the WT Org. Now you just have to figure out how to give these people a strong hint that you want nothing to do with them anymore. Tell them that you read something that disturbed you about the silent lambs program or the UN scandal. You can find that info on this site or go to silentlambs.com and print out some research and try to show it to your study. Hard to know how she will react--most likely to tell you it is all a lie and then will shy away from you after that.

    newlight2 also had some great links on his post, which could be helpful if you would like to defend yourself to these people. If you don't give them some sort of a firm reason why you don't want to continue with your study they will usually persist for a while believing that the demons are trying to pull you over to the dark side and so they will persist in trying to "save" you for a bit It is a weird twisted belief system. I was involved in it for 20 plus . So glad I'm out, but it did cause some damage to my life and I am still picking up the pieces.

    The best to you!

    cybs

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    If they persist after all the above posts just ask them to bring the questions that are asked when a person is baptised and how they reconcile those questions with what Jesus said at Matthew 28:19. If they then quote Matthew 28:20 just say "that's true after you are baptised then the teaching starts not before, so why are you people doing it backwards from what Jesus said?" And if they start the disciple crap about "learned one" then ask them how long it takes to learn that Jesus is your personal savior and that you accept Him, repent from your sins and do they have a personal relationship with Jesus. that will cause them to RUN, RUN, RUN away from you.

  • fairchild
    fairchild

    You don't have to be rude if you don't want to. However, YOU MAY HAVE TO BE FIRM AND CLEAR because JWs are a very persistent people.

    I totally agree with this. Be firm, but don't be rude, and above all, just be honest. If you feel that this religion is not exactly what you want for yourself, then just tell them. They will insist, they might even suggest you study with someone else, or you study a different book. It is not alway easy to say no when they insist. (heh, I know that for a fact). Good luck.

  • willyloman
    willyloman

    PClark:

    By now you've figured out that the advice you're getting is all over the map. Read each post, but don't forget to filter all these comments through your own emotional screen and don't be talked into an approach that leaves you the slightest bit uncomfortable.

    If you end your study by simply and straight forwardly stating that you no longer wish to study with her (or him, as the case may be), that all your questions are answered and you are no longer curious about what they teach, the chances are the JW will beat a hasty retreat. If she attempts to challenge you in any way, or wants a detailed explanation, just look at her calmly and repeat what you said earlier (memorize a phrase or two). I promise you, by the time you repeat the phrase once or twice, she'll pick up and go.

    After that, you can be fairly sure no one will ever call on you again unless it's by accident. Dubs, for the most part, HATE confrontation and really dislike going to a door where the resident has clearly made up their mind they aren't interested.

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