this is in my view why the Net "THANG" is so powerful, it can help us avoid alot of the additional emotional baggage that we ourselves add upon ourselves on the way out of wt. simply by not knowing how to deal with those we love who are still in
if anything has happened her mom has become EVEN MORE ENTRENCHED into the grips of wt, so by our lack of knowledge we can actually unwittly be pushing them further into the world of wt,
this is why education of High Control groups are so vital before we start to say anything
i beg all you lurkers and those considering "I will show them elders up" mindset to think long and hard
i have had too many folks sit in my living room here in dc crying only wishiing they had HANDLED IT DIFFERERNTLY- there are more than one way to skin a cat folks and I KEEP TELLING FORKS as a general rule DIRECT CONFRONTATION DON'T WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if anything it plays right into the hands of what the wt has been teaching jw for years about those who leave
THINK PEOPLE THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO WE not tell a bible student that their family and friends may not approve of the things they are learning from the bible and sure enough the minute they tell a co worker or family member "hey i'm taking bible study from the jw"
the persons respond I WOULDN'T IF I WERE YOU!!!!!
AND IN THE mind of the bible student they say, Man i can't beleive that, THE FIRST BIBLE PROPHECY COMING TRUE JUST LIKE THE JW LADY TOLD ME IT WOULD, they will hate you for studing the bible and learning new things, didn't i just learn that god has a name from the jw-
so jw are PREPARE AND READY FOR ANYONE WHO CHALLENGES THIER BELIEF SYSTEM
damn what do you think all those Freaking meetings were designed to do????????????????? smile
but here is they type of advice listed below that would have been given PRIOR TO THIS PERSON Subjecting themselves to literally emotional hell:
A POSTER STATES:
?For me, I could see very early on that any debate with a JW that uses the Bible or their literature usually fails?
?As long as they deny being unhappy, then why bother? I agree with
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Once again words of wisdom from someone who has been there
More good advice below:
?You are in a no win situation when you allow this to happen and I see in fact the conclusion was reached you are a poztate.
I feel sorry for your situation but nothing will change except "mom" will be encouraged by the elders to take a harder line with you as regards shunning.?
Great advice continues:
?I would have went for a fairer fight. 3 on 1 means that you have to defend the ideas of 3 other people as well as formulate your own logic. Didn't JW's teach you to go 2 by 2?
Others say:
?I have found that just staying away from anything about the lies the WTS teaches, it seems JW's are so good with the doublespeak that it is hard to reason with them. They deny till their blue in the face they are prophets, yet they follow the FDS if they told them to drink poison koolaid?
Excellent advice continues:
?Direct you energies to more positive pursuits; it does take time and effort to heal as you move away from them. An argument like they always give you; only sets you back emotionally?
Another poster who has been there done that:
?Sorry you went through all that, and the sad ending. You really can't debate someone out of the org. It's like a door locked from the inside. No matter how hard you bang, they won't come out until they unlock it themselves.
I did the same thing with my father-in-law on a much tighter, more easily defined issue. (Birthdays) Got the same result as you.?
