I made a mistake

by under74 48 Replies latest jw friends

  • Taylor S.
    Taylor S.
    peppermint: All art forms should be up building and nice...Do I sound like a JW or what?

    uhmm .... just a teensy weensy little bit .....

  • whyamihere
    whyamihere

    As a Dub I was never afraid of Death...I was afraid of life!

    Now I am afraid to die because I love life!

    Brooke

  • Taylor S.
    Taylor S.

    I just thought of another one ... does anyone remember this ...

    The great tightrope aerialist Karl Wallenda fell to his death in 1978 traversing a 75-foot high wire in downtown San Juan, Puerto Rico.

    I remember this because they kept showing it on the news. I can still see that old wobbling on the wire and they falling .... the cameras followed him down to the ground. I kept watching that man fall, over and over, mesmerized and horrified ....

    That image never goes away. Ironically ... '78 was the year My Book of Bible Stories came out. It was a bad year for kids all around.

    tS

  • under74
    under74

    Taylor- I agree that the Dubs aren't helpful in the matter of keeping kids from harmful images and stories--I know this because I was raised JW. Until I managed to buy a copy of My Book of Bible Stories most of the friends I tried to describe it to thought I was joking.
    Still, although I was raised JW and had it drilled into me that terrible things were going to happen to "worldly" people, I still don't like seeing what I saw the other day.

    Brooke touched on it a bit in her last post. I was told not to fear death because it might happen in the "great tribulation" but I didn't look forward to it and I didn't like the idea of having to watch "worldly" people die when the system ended...or having to clean it up...

  • Taylor S.
    Taylor S.

    yeah 74 .... speaking of the 'clean up'.

    i remember one brother talking truck loads of bodies and such ....

    it's a wonder we're not serial killers ....

  • under74
    under74

    Nobody's talking about banning Barney...what I'm talking about, what I just saw... doesn't have to do with journalism. Faces of Death is for entertainment, not journalism or news.

  • frenchbabyface
    frenchbabyface

    I'm not sure I would have been able to see it ...

    My son when he was 7 was already a friend with the girlfriend he is now with. So most of the time they were playing either in front of my window or in front of her parent windows playground.

    A guy decided to shorten in life in jumpimp from his windows IN FRONT OF THE KIDS PLAYGROUND ... What was in Tony's head is the sound of the guy hitting the ground and the image of the blood like runing out of his head ... I guess the conscience of the guy was switched on off (cause if your sad or mad about something it can be because of kids ... it have to be because of older people) people who are publicly killing themself are either in a crazy state (they don't know what they are doing) either they are very proud of what they are doing for a reason or an other some things like : I'm gonna show them / they will have to see that / They will remember me / They will have to regret / I'm gonna be famous / ... things like that (more or less insane kind) ... Not only in the familly but for everybody who will see and know about it, means as much as possible) it's an insane state of mind / or the mind is truly switched on off to get there by itself in a sec (in public or not).

    Now a guy who say's I don't wanna do this in front of camera and who does it is an actor (LOL and NOT LOL), obviously he wanted to do it, the way he did !

    THE RESULT for Anthony and his girlfriend is that they are both actually very into gore stuffs, Tony is kind of insensitive to gore and he is more touched by the un-seen like things related to ghosts and alike (Japonese movies are the reference / the original RING for instance)

    Not that long ago he wanted me to watch a website were you can see dead peoples in accidents and stuffs like that ... I couldn't ... but I watched his face while he was doing it, to get the kind of feeling he was getting out of that :

    • Well it was disgust like a subit UH !!!
    • Then watching closer eyes almost closed at first like looking only details instead of watching the entire picture ...
    • and very quick get out of disgust ...

    And hop the other one ... Once in a while, he was telling me, "you can watch this one it's not that bad" ... and giving me detail (oy, oy oy ... I needed to tell him to understand that because I didn't have the picture of what is was telling me, to me it was un-seen, and that that way, he just leaves it to my imagination, means eventually the worse I can imagine ... before he realised he'd better shut up !)

    Somehow I guess he developped the capacity to overcome the disgust part (for some people it's genetic - some cold blooded serial killers do have this capacity naturally : No disgust at all ... Some do use it to help the community in taking some specific jobs where you have to deal with that ... some others do learn to get there by experience if not by heart) ...

    So I don't know what to think about that. The only question left was : why the need to want to see it and more over more if not more terrible ? It's look like a personnal test what can I stand ? like how far can I go ? where are my limits ? Something alike (it's about discovering ourself in a specific matter ... in a sane way : climbing a wall for instance, or in an insane way : like killing an animal just to see what it does to you).

    Now about my son, I guess that if I have to get into a very terrible state I can hope he will be able to look at me while telling me he loves me without getting that natural disgust feeling as early as possible cause I would feel it.

    Ooops I've wrote too much ... but it's something I had time to think about ...

    They told me I've seen an accident in belgium when I was a kid (An old woman who got hit by a car) I remember the other details of the day, the ice cream ... but about that scene I have a black out : I JUST DON'T REMEMBER !

  • rwagoner
    rwagoner

    Being in Law Enforcement for so many years after I left you get exposed to some pretty troubling and disgusting stuff. To keep ourselves sane we try to joke it off with black humor that to anyone outside the Police/Fire/EMS family would seem TOTALLY innappropriate, heartless and cold. It is just a way to separate ourselves from the tragedy.

    I volunteered for several years on the State Critical Incident Stress Debriefing Team....we would travel to the scene of a traumatic event and try to help the local public safety workers cope with the emotions and stress that naturally occur after something terrible happens. Outsiders and even family sometimes just can't understand the feelings that occur so our team of their peers would try to help.

  • Dawn
    Dawn
    Being in Law Enforcement for so many years after I left you get exposed to some pretty troubling and disgusting stuff. To keep ourselves sane we try to joke it off with black humor that to anyone outside the Police/Fire/EMS family would seem TOTALLY innappropriate, heartless and cold. It is just a way to separate ourselves from the tragedy.

    rwagonner - I understand exactly! For the past 15 years I have worked in the criminal justice system and have seen way too many awful things that I wish I never knew about (abuse, molestation, murder scenese, etc). You have to find some way to distance yourself from those dark emotions, and humor helps lighten it up.

    I can't understand people who would want to watch things like that for entertainment. But then again, everyone is different. Perhaps those individuals have never really experienced it first hand, so it's no different to them than watching a movie. I've come completely about face on blood/gore. I used to be able to sort murder scene photos for presentation (basically picking the ones the jury should see and pulling out the ones that are just too gory and awful) - now I can't even handle a gory movie. I think that I have been exposed to it for too long - and then having went through it all first hand when my brother was murdered just brought it too close to home. This is part of the reason I am moving out of the criminal justice system and into a different field - I just don't want to have that kind of "icky" stuff in my life any longer. Even reading a news article about an abuse case or a molestation case will keep me in tears for days.

  • melmac
    melmac

    There was a co-worker here who used to access those "gory news" websites. I once caught a glimpse of it. Sickening to death. Fortunately, he worked at another room, so it didn`t happen again. BTW, he was a "christian" (Baptist)...

    Some times, when I was at chat rooms (about 3 years ago), someone would come in and post those pictures of dead people (from forensics books). Before I had the chance to put him on "ignore" I would end up seeing some pics. And what is worse... some people encouraged the guy to keep posting. Irk!

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