A Plain Rebel! (page 2)

Golf

Two thumbs up for you Rebel8. Independent thinking wasn't a major rule? OK, secret. Yeah, imagine them saying 'bad' taste when they had NO taste! Don't these people have a mirror in their place of residence?

Anyways, you choosed the right the name for this forum.

Golf

jula71

After some thought, I have a problem with the word "rebel." Does having your own thoughts or your own head make you a rebel? Rebel against what? The group? Each group is made of individuals and is what the WTBTS try to kill, the individual.

bikerchic

but experience has taught me not to set my hopes on what people promise. When I don't expect things from people, I don't get disappointed.

Awww, I see we went to the same school of hard knocks! I graduated mama-de-loud-ass! I've always been different from the group no matter what group it was be it school mates or JW's acquaintances. I always knew who I was and I always knew I didn't fit into the little box of conformity.

To thy own self be true is what ruled me. I did temper that with playing along until my game plan played out, notice I said my game plan. It may have looked like I was under their control (WTS) but when it was time I left and only to hear later from them.........."aww yes she never was of our sort."

talesin:

"You will never get anything you want unless you learn to ask for it."

But remember we weren't supposed to want for anything unless it was Jah's will, bwhahahaha! How could we be so selfish as to actually want for ourselves? More circular thinking!

Step out there, say 'this is what I want'. If you don't reach for what you want, it's guaranteed that you won't get it.

It's great to be an actor in your own life ain't it?! Like you this was a big lesson I learned but when I did boy what a freedom and yet what a responsibility at the same time.

People will always think of you in a certain way, be it negative or positive. There's is no way in the world your going to please everyone, no way!

Golf

Yep to thy own self be true! This is what pleases me and if mama ain't happy ain't nobody happy!

Kate (of the always been a rebel class)

garybuss

In a closed society, anyone with two working brain cells is called a rebel. Golf, you are an intellectual so you would be off the rebel scale.

MerryMagdalene

wow, tal, what you said.....now you're making me look in the mirror.....always trying so hard to be compliant and tolerant and understanding and accepting no matter what.....hmmm.....perhaps it's time for me to get in touch with my inner rebel debbil

~Merry (still pondering)

talesin

what a freedom and yet what a responsibility at the same time.

chic

"actor in your own life"

Yes, and that's how it works in reality, isn't it?

The freedom to choose my actions, then accept the consquences of said actions. That's a responsibility I can joyfully embrace. :)

Sometimes it's challenging, damn, sometimes it's downright hard. But always worth it!

As to being a rebel, aren't all individuals rebels in some way or another? Does anyone really want to be a ? Vive le difference!

t

talesin

Merry

I'm glad you like!

Yes, when my shrink first told me that as a 'pleaser', I was the classic passive-aggressive manipulator, it was like having a glass of cold water flung in my face! Once I was able to step outside of myself, though, and see from a cooler, more Spock-like perspective (my alter-ego), it made a lot of sense.

And, my rules say (heheh) that

'now I have seen the mirror image clearly, and I acknowledge I need to work on this. The most arduous 50% of the work is already done'.

t

sweet tee

Me, always a rebel at heart (translation ... independent thinker, questioned authority) I subjected myself hook-line-and-sinker to the J-dub philosophy. Ya know, the end being all near and such, not wanting to be eaten by ravens, having to kick it with 'them' in order to get into paradise, etc., etc, etc .. it took me about 8 years for the fog to clear and to see the reality, hypocrisy and cruelty of the GB control tactics. Once I began thinking for myself again I could see the hypocrisy of the people around me. Here I was poor and struggling, depriving myself of an education, career, close relationship with my 'worldly' relatives, never going to clubs - waiting for an invitation to someone's home just to have something to do ... then I looked around and saw that others in the cong. seemed to be doing what they wanted so why not me? The difference being, that I didn't want to do 5 meetings a week any longer, read those boring 'so-called' college material mags so poorly written I can't believe now that I put up with that crap so long! Every publication sounded the same ... blah blah blah blah blah blah blah .... what drudgery it all became.

When I returned to my 'true self' the rebellion was on in full swing! Against my JW husband, his meddling JW mother and the elders. I started to make my own decisions, prayerfully relying on the God I knew way back when ... before "they" told me his name was Jehovah.

Sometimes rebellion is the only way to FREEDOM!

tijkmo

to borrow from another thread today....now thats the unforgivable sin...having a modicum of intelligence

talesin

tij

now thats the unforgivable sin...having a modicum of intelligence

... 'specially if you are female *giggle, giggle* *flick of the hair!*

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