Should Intelligent Design be taught in schools?

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  • AlmostAtheist
    AlmostAtheist

    Kansas is holding a debate to decide.

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/05/02/life.evolution.reut/index.html

    TOPEKA, Kansas (Reuters) -- Evolution is going on trial in Kansas.

    Eighty years after a famed courtroom battle in Tennessee pitted religious beliefs about the origins of life against the theories of British scientist Charles Darwin, Kansas is holding its own hearings on what school children should be taught about how life on Earth began.

    The Kansas Board of Education has scheduled six days of courtroom-style hearings to begin Thursday in Topeka. More than two dozen witnesses will give testimony and be subject to cross-examination, with the majority expected to argue against teaching evolution.

    Many prominent U.S. scientific groups have denounced the debate as founded on fallacy and have promised to boycott the hearings, which opponents say are part of a larger nationwide effort by religious interests to gain control over government.

    "I feel like I'm in a time warp here," said Topeka attorney Pedro Irigonegaray who has agreed to defend evolution as valid science. "To debate evolution is similar to debating whether the Earth is round. It is an absurd proposition."

    Widespread debate

    Irigonegaray's opponent will be attorney John Calvert, managing director of the Intelligent Design Network, a Kansas organization that argues the Earth was created through intentional design rather than random organism evolution.

    The group is one of many that have been formed over the last several years to challenge the validity of evolutionary concepts and seek to open the schoolroom door to ideas that humans and other living creatures are too intricately designed to have come about randomly.

    While many call themselves creationists, who believe that God was the ultimate designer of all life, they are stopping short of saying creationism should be taught in schools.

    "We're not against evolution," said Calvert. "But there is a lot of evidence that suggests that life is the product of intelligence. I think it is inappropriate for the state to prejudge the question whether we are the product of design or just an occurrence."

    Debates over evolution are currently being waged in more than a dozen states, including Texas where one bill would allowing for creationism to be taught alongside evolution.

    Kansas has been grappling with the issue for years, garnering worldwide attention in 1999 when the state school board voted to downplay evolution in science classes.

    Subsequent elections altered the membership of the school board and led to renewed backing for evolution instruction in 2001. But elections last year gave religious conservatives a 6-4 majority and the board is now finalizing new science standards, which will guide teachers about how and what to teach students.

    The current proposal pushed by conservatives would not eliminate evolution entirely from instruction, nor would it require creationism be taught, but it would encourage teachers to discuss various viewpoints and eliminate core evolution claims as required curriculum.

    School board member Sue Gamble, who describes herself as a moderate, said she will not attend the hearings, which she calls "a farce." She said the argument over evolution is part of a larger agenda by Christian conservatives to gradually alter the legal and social landscape in the United States.

    "I think it is a desire by a minority... to establish a theocracy, both within Kansas and growing to a national level," Gamble said.

    Old Testament teachings

    Some evolution detractors say that the belief that humans, animals and organisms evolved over long spans of time is inconsistent with Biblical teachings that life was created by God. The Bible's Old Testament says that God created life on Earth including the first humans, Adam and Eve, in six days.

    Detractors also argue that evolution is invalid science because it cannot be tested or verified and say it is inappropriately being indoctrinated into education and discouraging consideration of alternatives.

    But defenders say that evolution is not totally inconsistent with Biblical beliefs, and it provides a foundational concept for understanding many areas of science, including genetics and molecular biology.

    The theory of evolution came to prominence in 1859 when Darwin published "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection," and it was the subject of a 1925 trial in Tennessee in which teacher John Thomas Scopes was accused of violating a ban against teaching evolution.

    Kansas School Board chairman Steve Abrams said the hearings are less about religion than they are about seeking the best possible education for the state's children.

    "If students ... do not understand the weaknesses of evolutionary theory as well as the strengths, a grave injustice is being done to them," Abrams said.

  • love11
    love11

    Of course it should be taught! It's scientific evidence! How can you teach science without teaching evolution?!!!! People are crazy.

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    I'd rather they attempted to raise intelligence.

    In all honesty, though, it's better than them teaching "Young Earth Creationism".
    Softly, softly, catchee monkey...

  • Qcmbr
    Qcmbr

    I was taught in school to look at every arguement from as many angles as possible except when I got to critical studies in english when all we looked at was marxist and feminist critical approaches (shudders)

    Of course we should teach this as one of the competing ideas - surely anti - religionsist can see that when religion ruled it stuffed things up by excluding all competing theories - now if evolutionists rule they mustn't be allowed to make the same mistake - if evolution is as all answering and all self evident a 'truth' then it should be happy to be taught against such inferior ideas for then it will look so much smarter - however take peoples ideas, beliefs and hide them away and they'll just get stronger. Debate and discussion , comparison and opposition are bedrocks of educational growth.

    As a side note - if I was in charge of school curriculum I would let them teach evolution / creationism / intell design, young earth / old earth arguements etc.. kids would love that sort of debate and discussion.

  • Daunt
    Daunt

    I feel that it should be added in, but it's deceptive and just plain wrong to give kids (when they are forced to go to school) information that isn't based on facts. That just doesn't seem right with me. I feel that schools should give the beliefs of creationism from every religion's viewpoint but in the context that none of this has any substance lol. Of course I highly doubt this will happen since many teachers will take it into their own hands and start preaching it like it's from Darwin himself. Ah well just to keep it safe, i'd say no.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere
    Should Intelligent Design be taught in schools?

    Only if they can produce the "intelligence" behind the "design" for scrutiny and analysis... otherwise it is still religion and not science.

  • GentlyFeral
    GentlyFeral

    Certainly - as part of the history curriculum, along with information on the rise of monotheism, the Reformation, the Great Awakening, and other developments in the history of religious thought.

    gently feral

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    Sure, every bit of credible evidence for intelligent design should be examine in detail. That will leave 99.9% of the school year available for evolutionary biology.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    At least not before an initiation to philosophy, so that students may have a chance to understand the concepts of "sophism" and "teleology".

    Side remark: although the vast majority of French believers are not creationists and would never ask for ID to be taught in school, it now has to be mentioned (and refuted) in school because many students (especially Moslems) come up with ID arguments from the Internet.

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    Not as a part of the regular science curriculum. That curriculum should consist of the best results of modern science, period. Other ideas can be taught in courses on religion or whatever.

    "Intelligent Design" is purely a religious idea, as its modern day leader, Phillip Johnson, admits. Its proponents have no positive theory whatsoever. What they have is a collection of claims (many of which are false or misleading) that say essentially, "we don't understand how evolution could have happened, so life must have been created."

    If ID is allowed to be taught, then why not the Hare Krishna version of creationism? Or the young-earth kind taught by American Fundamentalists? Or Flat-Earthism? Or that UFOs are alien visitors? Where does a school board stop?

    AlanF

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