Ya keesh,
Sitting on my evil butt plotting plans against the annointed of god.
What? So Korah gets rez now? What about me? I'm an apostate too....
by IP_SEC 40 Replies latest watchtower bible
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gumby
Where's Blondie?
The society has always taught that all those DIRECTLY killed by Jehovah's hand.....such as Korah and his buddies........would never have a ressurection. Why? Because if Jehovah killed them, they were judged at that moment as wicked and there would be no second judging......hence, no ressurection.
Can someone find the article(s) that said this?
Gumby
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Nathan Natas
Could I interrupt to ask a question?
Do Adam & Eve get a resurrection?
They were not killed "by the hand of God," but by old age. If I suspend many levels of disbelief, I could say they "paved the way" into Sheol for all the rest of us.
I can't recall what the WTS says about this, and we all know how vital the WTS' opinion is.
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RichieRich
I can't recall what the WTS says about this, and we all know how vital the WTS' opinion is.
No ressurrection for them. Said it in last weeks watchtower.
blondie?
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keeshah
Sitting on my evil butt plotting plans against the annointed of god.
No... no... no.... your just being NORMAL. Welcome to the real world!
Hope everything is going okay for you. My first year out was a rough one.
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nicolaou
Just a feeling but I don't think there is anything new here. I'll check it out later (if Blondie doesn't get her ass into gear first!)
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IP_SEC
Yes its new, here is the previous understanding.
*** w65 2/1 pp. 80-81 Part Two ***
UNRIGHTEOUS PERSONS ALSO IN SHEOL (HA´DES)
2 The Hebrew word Sheol (Greek LXX, Ha´des) occurs four times in the first book of the Bible, called Genesis and written by the prophet Moses. The next occurrences of Sheol are in the fourth book of the Bible, called Numbers, also written by Moses. Twice the word is there used, in connection with the households of the Israelites Korah, Dathan and Abiram. Those three men became rebellious against Jehovah, and so he used his prophet Moses to call down his judgment upon them. First the other Israelites were told to get away from the tabernacles of those three rebels and their households. Then Moses showed that the judgment would be from God by saying: “If it is something created that Jehovah will create, and the ground has to open its mouth and swallow up them and everything that belongs to them and they have to go down alive into Sheol [Ha´des], you will then know for certain that these men have treated Jehovah disrespectfully.”—Num. 16:20-30.
3 Notice that the prophet Moses did not pray or ask for those three family groups to go down into everlasting destruction. He did not call for the worst punishment possible to be executed upon them. He asked for the ground beneath them to open up and swallow them down alive and bury them out of sight, that in this way they might go down “into Sheol.” Did they go to Sheol (Ha´des), or to a worse place? The very next verses (Num. 16:31-33) tell us, saying: “And it came about that as soon as he had finished speaking all these words, the ground that was under them began to be split apart. And the earth proceeded to open its mouth and to swallow up them and their households and all humankind that belonged to Korah and all the goods. So down they went, and all who belonged to them, alive into Sheol [Ha´des, LXX], and the earth went covering them over, so that they perished from the midst of the congregation.”
4 Apparently the leading man Korah was not with those who went down alive in this manner into Sheol. He was a Levite and evidently was in the courtyard of the tabernacle of worship among the two hundred and fifty Levites who sided with Korah against Moses and Aaron. “And a fire came out from Jehovah and proceeded to consume the two hundred and fifty men offering the incense.”—Num. 16:35.
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IP_SEC
They were not killed "by the hand of God," but by old age. If I suspend many levels of disbelief, I could say they "paved the way" into Sheol for all the rest of us.
That is a very interesting question NN. The society runs around in circles and conjectures on the answer but heheh. Yes true.
Thank you keesha, everything is going well. I have good support on this board. Plus I've had a number of people who've come out of the wood work on this board and other places that I know in RL since I da'd. So its going pretty good.
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Satanus
So dubs could save their beloved apostate rebels by killing them before the big a.
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IP_SEC
Ooops wait a sec, I needed to finish the next paragraph.
*** w65 2/1 p. 81 Part Two ***
5 Thus by the miraculous splitting of the ground and by miraculous fire those three rebels and their households were cleared out from the congregation of Israel at about the same time. Sheol or Ha´des holds them. The sons of Korah did not side in with their father and hence were not burned up. As Numbers 26:9-11 tells us: “However, the sons of Korah did not die.” In support of this, see also the superscriptions of Psalms 42-49, 84, 85, 87, 88.
Ok when you read this do you read that everyone who was destroyed at that time are in Sheol or just the house holds?