NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I wanna pair o' dice
psych!
What? So Korah gets rez now? What about me? I'm an apostate too....
by IP_SEC 40 Replies latest watchtower bible
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TheListener
(((listener joining with ipsec in chant))))) PAIR O' DICE PAIR O' DICE PARROT LICE (ooops)
Yes, the WTS is anything but consistent.
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sheshe
This is the link to the article pasted below
http://www.equip.org/free/DJ345htm
Christian Research Institute (CRI)
Watchtower Reverses Itself on Resurrection Doctrine
In a major doctrinal reversal, The Watchtower magazine of June 1, 1988, announced a new viewpoint on the resurrection: the individuals who were killed when God rained fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah will not be raised up again — not even to face Judgment Day. According to the new view, “Jesus saying that it ‘would be more endurable on Judgment Day for Tyre or Sodom’ did not necessarily mean that those people will be present on Judgment Day... It is apparent, then, that those whom God executed in those past judgments experienced irreversible destruction (pages 30-31).”
The Watchtower’s wording in presenting the new doctrine is similar to the wording used 23 years earlier when presenting the former view on this matter: “For it to be more endurable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah” than for others, it would be necessary for former inhabitants of that land to be present on Judgment Day... So apparently individuals who used to live in that land will be resurrected (The Watchtower, August 1, 1965, p. 479).
Former Jehovah’s Witnesses now actively opposing the sect reacted by pointing out that the new view represents a return to what had been taught prior to 1965. Notable among the ex-Witnesses who objected to the June 1988, article as a ‘flip-flop” was David T. Brown of Alpha & Omega Ministries in Phoenix. Brown circulated photocopies of a June 1, 1952, Watchtower article that ruled out resurrection for the Sodomites (p.338).
Current Jehovah’s Witnesses received the new teaching with more than mere academic interest since, to them, the fate of the men of Sodom has some bearing on whether or not they can expect to see their own non-Witness relatives raised up.
— David A. Reed
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sheshe
Link to article pasted below
http://www.equip.org/free/DJ345.htm
Christian Research Institute (CRI)
Watchtower Reverses Itself on Resurrection Doctrine
In a major doctrinal reversal, The Watchtower magazine of June 1, 1988, announced a new viewpoint on the resurrection: the individuals who were killed when God rained fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah will not be raised up again — not even to face Judgment Day. According to the new view, “Jesus saying that it ‘would be more endurable on Judgment Day for Tyre or Sodom’ did not necessarily mean that those people will be present on Judgment Day... It is apparent, then, that those whom God executed in those past judgments experienced irreversible destruction (pages 30-31).”
The Watchtower’s wording in presenting the new doctrine is similar to the wording used 23 years earlier when presenting the former view on this matter: “For it to be more endurable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah” than for others, it would be necessary for former inhabitants of that land to be present on Judgment Day... So apparently individuals who used to live in that land will be resurrected (The Watchtower, August 1, 1965, p. 479).
Former Jehovah’s Witnesses now actively opposing the sect reacted by pointing out that the new view represents a return to what had been taught prior to 1965. Notable among the ex-Witnesses who objected to the June 1988, article as a ‘flip-flop” was David T. Brown of Alpha & Omega Ministries in Phoenix. Brown circulated photocopies of a June 1, 1952, Watchtower article that ruled out resurrection for the Sodomites (p.338).
Current Jehovah’s Witnesses received the new teaching with more than mere academic interest since, to them, the fate of the men of Sodom has some bearing on whether or not they can expect to see their own non-Witness relatives raised up.
— David A. Reed
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sheshe
sorry for the duplicate post!
for those of you who didn't figure it out, the period was missing on that link.
The correct link to the article on the WT's reversal of the resurrection doctrine is:
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gumby
IPSEC......ya damn loser! Your worse than Korah ever was! Freddie Franz hated apostates worse than a damn guy with a beard who lived 4 thousand years ago who was jealous of Moses bein da boss man.
Looky here at Freddies indignation being expressed here in this 1982 Watchtower 4/1 p.26-28
" Jesus told the unrepentant scribes and Pharisees that they and their Gentile proselytes were ‘subjects for Gehenna’ or, literally, ‘sons of Gehenna.’ (Matthew 23:15, 33-35; see also John 9:39-41; 15:22-24.) If even a proselyte of the Pharisees became a subject for Gehenna ‘twice as much so as themselves,’ how much more so Judas Iscariot, who made a heinous deal with them to betray God’s Son! Jesus implied this when he called Judas "the son of destruction." (John 17:12) Similarly, unrepentant apostates go, at death, not to Sheol, or Hades, but to Gehenna. (Hebrews 6:4-8; 2 Peter 2:1) The same is true of dedicated Christians who persist in willful sin or those who "shrink back." (Hebrews 10:26-31, 38, 39) These are merely examples to show that some, even in "this system of things," have committed the sin for which there is no forgiveness, not even in the system of things "to come." (Matthew 12:31, 32; compare 1 John 5:16.) They will, therefore, not be resurrected.
Poor IPSEC.....I kinda feel sorry for his poor apostate arse.
Gumby
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Room 215
Stay tuned; it looks like they're about to rehabilitate the guys and gals (or guys and guys) from Sodom and Gommorah for the umpteenth time...
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ozziepost
About time too, Roomie!!
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blondie
The society has always taught that all those DIRECTLY killed by Jehovah's hand.....
It would be helpful to research what the WTS calls a judgment period.
50 year period before the Flood
? years before Sodom & Gomorrah were destroyed
37 (40) year period between 33 and 70 (73) CE destruction of Jerusalem
1914 (1918) to beginning of great tribulation
The WTS once taught that the goats and sheep were being separated now and that non-JWs who died now during this judgment period had no hope of the resurrection.
In 1995(?) the WTS moved this separation forward to just after the GT when Jesus appeared with his angels and all those on earth saw him (spiritually of course).
That meant that non-JWs were not being judged now for eternal destruction and that if they died before the GT, they still had a hope of being resurrected.
Everyone with non-JW mates breathed a sigh of relief (but did not run out and murder their mate--smile)
Next week I will try to bring in some more info on the WTS view of the resurrection in the 3rd and final article.
Blondie
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stillajwexelder
Gerrit Losch made mention of this in his final talk - new light - Korah etc get a resurrection