My last District Convention (I hope) ... observations

by ithinkisee 62 Replies latest jw friends

  • bronzefist
    bronzefist

    "There is evidence that Jesus likely instituted specific times for gathering his followers together for worship." Of course, they backed this up with no scripture. A couple minutes later they were speaking as if this were fact - that Jesus instituted specific meeting times

    Just my opinion, this is an issue because of low attendance at the meetings. Many including myself have questioned the excessive amount of time required to attend boring and repetitive meetings.

    When I asked for scriptures to support all this wasted time I was quoted Matt. 24:45;

    “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time”

    Elder looked me in the eye and asked if I was questioning the FDS arrangement in suppling Jehovah's food "at the proper TIMES."

  • ithinkisee
    ithinkisee

    Ezekial3 said: Ithink: What did you think about the talk that focused in the inactive. I heard it was very "loving and inviting".

    Thanks for reminding me. I almost forgot about that! It was very harsh! I don't have my notes with me right now but basically they called all the inactive ones a bunch of names - and then followed up not 60 seconds after that with the question "What is holding you back from attending?" My thought was ... "Maybe because of all those names you just called them!"

    I'll write down some exact quotes when I get home ...

    Also did you notice that the drama was almost complete fiction about Timothy's life (not scriptural).

    I didn't notice that. I figured I was just not familiar with Timothy's life. Care to elaborate?

    -ithinkisee

  • ezekiel3
    ezekiel3

    In the drama: Young Timothy has a friend and they are both interested in going to Athens to persue a higher education. Timothy's father (a Greek) is shown encouraging Timothy to go to Athens for schooling. Both Timothy and his friend continue to be associated with the congregation but his friend goes to Athens for learning and never enters the ministry like Timothy. Later, an older brother in the congregation entices Timothy's friend with materialism, etc and tries to influence Timothy's friend away from spiritual concerns.

    In the Bible: Timothy has a father that was Greek.

    Seems to me the WTS has indulged in complete fiction as a vehicle for their agenda: Limit higher education, pioneer, apostacy.

    For reference the Insight Book has the bio, no apparent fiction here:

    ***

    it-2 pp. 1105-1106 Timothy ***

    TIMOTHY

    (Tim´o·thy) [One Who Honors God].

    Son of a Jewess, Eunice, and a Greek father (not named in the Scriptures). While very young, Timothy was taught "the holy writings" by his mother and probably also by his grandmother Lois. (Ac 16:1; 2Ti 1:5; 3:15) It is not known precisely when Timothy embraced Christianity. However, perhaps late in 49 or early in 50 C.E., when the apostle Paul arrived at Lystra (apparently Timothy’s home) in the course of his second missionary journey, the disciple Timothy (perhaps in his late teens or early twenties) "was well reported on by the brothers in Lystra and Iconium."—Ac 16:2.

    It may have been at this time that, as a result of the operation of God’s spirit, certain prophecies or predictions were voiced concerning Timothy. After the holy spirit had in this way indicated the future of Timothy, the older men of the congregation joined the apostle Paul in laying their hands upon Timothy, thereby setting him apart for a particular service in connection with the Christian congregation. (1Ti 1:18; 4:14; 2Ti 1:6; compare Ac 13:3.) Paul chose Timothy as a traveling companion and, to avoid giving Jews an occasion for stumbling, circumcised him.—Ac 16:3.Travels With Paul. With Paul, Timothy shared in Christian activities in Philippi, Thessalonica, and Beroea. (Ac 16:11–17:10) When opposition that was stirred up by fanatical Jews made it necessary for Paul to depart from Beroea, the apostle left Silas and Timothy behind to care for the new group of believers there. (Ac 17:13-15) It appears that Paul thereafter sent word to Beroea, advising Timothy to visit the brothers at Thessalonica, encouraging them to remain faithful despite tribulation. (1Th 3:1-3; see ATHENS [Paul’s Activity in Athens].) Apparently rejoining Paul at Corinth, Timothy brought good news about the faithfulness and love of the Thessalonian Christians. (Ac 18:5; 1Th 3:6) In the letter Paul then sent to the Thessalonians, he included the names of Silvanus (Silas) and Timothy in the salutation, as he also did in his second letter to them.—1Th 1:1; 2Th 1:1.

  • LouBelle
    LouBelle

    I'm so over the moon happy I don't have to attend any of those silly things ever again.

  • Swan
    Swan
    The speaker said, "Some people have even gone so far as to make comments like, 'You'll never have to grow up in this system, Armageddon will be here by then.'

    Uh, let's see, "some people" would be J.F. Rutherford, Nathan Knorr, and Fred Franz, I suppose.

    Tammy

  • XBEHERE
    XBEHERE

    Eziekiel thanks for that link. I missed that thread... boy talk about baby food indeed!

  • TheListener
    TheListener

    thanks ithinkisee. I go in a few weeks (or did I go already?) - figure it out LURKER TROLLS!!!!

    I appreciate your information. Or maybe I don't!!!! - oh alright I'm done being frustrated with luker trolls now.

    Your insight on the convention friday and saturday being tougher than sunday is true and has been true for decades. Sunday is always the most positive and least cultish day.

    Good luck telling your wife how you feel. Once you're done can you pm me. I need some help telling my mate how I feel.

  • fleaman uk
    fleaman uk

    I'll write down some exact quotes when I get home ...

    I will be interested in some of the names us inactive faders were called!!

  • love2Bworldly
    love2Bworldly

    "I'm so over the moon happy I don't have to attend any of those silly things ever again. " (Sounds of thousands of people clapping enthusiastically)

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    So the new WT heroine is Edith Piaf?

    Englishman.

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