The Loving Provision Of Disfellowshipping. (page 4)

Odrade

Eman, what brought this up? I suppose it wasn't something pleasant...
bleh, puke. nasty people.

Leolaia

As for the other disfel reasons they are mostly unnecessary the "sinners" should have been treated with love and not expelled, unless what they did was really damaging to other people, can't expel memebers for smoking cigarettes, celebrating birthdays and christmas, visiting other churches, accepting blood etc etc

It is interesting to read what Paul says in 2 Corinthians 12:

14 Now I am ready to visit you for the third time, and I will not be a burden to you, because what I want is not your possessions but you. After all, children should not have to save up for their parents, but parents for their children. 15 So I will very gladly spend for you everything I have and expend myself as well. If I love you more, will you love me less? 16 Be that as it may, I have not been a burden to you. Yet, crafty fellow that I am, I caught you by trickery! 17 Did I exploit you through any of the men I sent you? 18 I urged Titus to go to you and I sent our brother with him. Titus did not exploit you, did he? Did we not act in the same spirit and follow the same course?

19 Have you been thinking all along that we have been defending ourselves to you? We have been speaking in the sight of God as those in Christ; and everything we do, dear friends, is for your strengthening. 20 For I am afraid that when I come I may not find you as I want you to be, and you may not find me as you want me to be. I fear that there may be quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, factions, slander, gossip, arrogance and disorder. 21 I am afraid that when I come again my God will humble me before you, and I will be grieved over many who have sinned earlier and have not repented of the impurity, sexual sin and debauchery in which they have indulged.

Not repented? Why were they not expelled or disfellowshipped? So much for a "clean" congregation. These "immoral" people were still members of the congregation; Paul still held out hope that they would repent and mend their ways. Note that he doesn't say, "Be sure to cleanse yourselves of these evildoers by the time I arrive."

Dragonlady76

Yes my disfellowshipping was a loving act, because in biblical times I would have been stoned to death for my actions. But because they are loving they "allowed" me to live

Wow.... you should feel fortutante to be alive huh?

Let me guess.... I bet you got df'd for having normal feelings and acting out on them...right?

If you deserved a stoning for that then I would like to see the public torture, stoning and beheading of pedophiles.

DL76

misguided

Delilah:

when I was DF'd, they promised to make sure my kids were kept involved and looked after spiritually......NOT!!!!!!! They were never once invited to anything

Same thing here...they've not invited to anything...not even a MEETING! No one ever calls to let them know what time or where the memorial is going to be held, or when the next circuit or district assembly date is.

Rose

Honesty

They are far too trigger happy when it comes to disfellowshipping let's not forget the real intention is to use it to expel dissenters so as not to allow them to carry on exposing damaging info and ideas about the GB.

DF'ing is the only way the apostate Governing Body can keep the JW's from learning the truth about their lies, deceit and twisted doctrines.

Frog

OH MY GOODNESS ME!!!!!! It's been such a long time since I last read this f*cked up shit (sorry, not very eloquent) and reading it again has me utterly speechless. This analogy for instance;

The propriety of expelling those who practice wicked deeds can be illustrated by the following situation: Because of the increase of assaults and violent crimes against students, some schools have adopted a policy that "calls for lifetime suspensions for students who use or threaten to use weapons," reports The Globe and Mail, a newspaper in Toronto, Canada. The expelling is done to protect the students who want to benefit from the educational program without being subjected to violent acts.

How on earth they can possibly draw a line between law abiding citizens, who pay their taxes, conscientiously vote, donate blood/organs, involve themselves in "real" voluntary/community service work, are being likened to those that subject innocent people to acts of violence, I just do not know???

I'm without words...I've read this stuff all before of course, but nowadays it hits with a certain punch. So, deluded these teachings are. F*ck the GB and the mind controlling, mind rotting trash they extol on their parishioners.

Thansk EM for another welcome reminder at the insidious, harmful nature of the GB residing in their ivory tower in Brookly. FROG x

Frog

I just forwarded this article to a handful of my good friends and family (who've never been assoicate, or too are diss'd). For so many years we were told to keep quiet about such things to out "unbelieving" relatives, because they wouldn't understand. Too bloody right they wouldn't understand, they hadn't been conditioned over many years to the mindless evil propoganda we had been fed with. At my oldest sisters wedding my slightly older sister was diss'd at the time. She attened the ceremony, but wasn't allowed to attend the reception. We were asked to tell out "unbelieving" family members that my sister had somehow become violently ill between the ceremony and the reception, and we all went though with it, and did as we were told. My sister was reinstated within a few months after that, although I will never understand how she has remained to committed to it after the way she was treated when out...

Es

I guess it never really hit me all the repercussions such as the shunning etc, until i became a parent myself. I can not get my head around how a parent can do that to there child. I could never ever cut myself off from my son, I will always be there to support him in everything he wants to do in his life. When i left the borg my dad said to me if you get D\F im not having anything to do with you and i will encourage your mother to do the same thing. I just cant understand it. And not only would be they be cutting of me but that includes my 3 year old son there only grandson. es

Frog

hi Es babe, hope you're well sweets:) xx...you're a wonderful mum, and don't you ever forget it. You're clearly tuned into your natural maternal instincts, and that's how it should be Frog x

crazyblondeb

I was always the teen that made the elder's work for their titles. But anytime I got in trouble for something at home, my parents ran to the elders--that meant an elder's meeting. Keep in mind, my stepdad, a MS, was molesting me and had been for years. Mom knew about it and kept quiet.

When I was 9 or 10 I got to meet by birth father. My parents then told me it was up to me if I wanted to continue contact with him. After I decided I did, my stepdad went to the elders, had another meeting, THEY decided I shouldn't get to know him since he wasn't a JW. One night after a meeting I was allowed to go to town with another JW girl. We ended up riding aournd with some boys from school. She got to feeling guilty and confessed "our" sins. The afternoon I found out there was going to be another elder's meeting, I snapped. I went to my birth grandma's. She called my birth dad. I took my parents car and parked it at the kingdom hall, with a note. They didn't have a clue where I was for 2 weeks. Later that summer, my stepmom and I came from texas to get my clothes. That POMPOUS bald, short elder lives close to my mom's. He ran up to the house, bible in hand, and demanded to know what I was doing. My mom was crying. I told him I was tired of their shit and I was going home to texas. He said since I was disobedient to my parents, I would be DF'd. Partied that night and celebrated!!!

The second time I was df'd, they decided I had a bad attitude and that they had reinstated me too soon. (3 months) I wasn't invited to a meeting or anything.

When I had my daughter and my mom came to the hospital, they threatened her with action. The elders in my congregation got off on entangling themselves in every aspect of everyone's life.

Sorry I got so long winded, this subject makes me want to go throw a few stones their way!!

shelley

The Loving Provision Of Disfellowshipping.

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