i gave my word

by teejay 76 Replies latest jw friends

  • teejay
    teejay

    Btw, Was, to Bigboi, you said,

    The only (slight) difference I noticed was the seeming obsession of Teejay keeping it going. Would it have killed the guy to just let this die? I am not the only party to have made this observation.

    Question:

    Regularly, like clockwork, the charge is made that I have a difficult time "letting go" <stop snickering, Six!>. On another thread, after an absence, Farkel posted a rather provocative post. Would you say HE has a hard time "letting go"? I didn't think so. Why is that? <rhetorical question, since i think i have the answer>

    Further, since my arrival on this discussion board, I have NEVER engaged myself in dialog, in other words: kept the thread alive all on my own. Get the point? Teejay is "obsessed" when he posts to threads few others are interested in, but the one to whom he's posting is "concerned, thoughtful, etc." Why the double standard? <rhetorical question>

    Max, what is the latin expression for "some can't see the forest for the trees"?

    peace,
    tj

  • mommy
    mommy

    Wassa,
    I was going to stay away Wassa, but I saw your thoughful and insightful postings. I was so impressed, I had to comment. He said

    Further, since my arrival on this discussion board, I have NEVER engaged myself in dialog, in other words: kept the thread alive all on my own.


    IMO I say you let him. I personally stopped responding to his drivel a few weeks ago, and now when I skim his posts I have reason to laugh. He is so hysterically ridiculous. Continually trying to make what he says sound like he is actually saying something(must be a class he is taking in college)

    He is the classic example of a hard working man, truck driver I believe. Who has been given a little knowledge in the few courses he is taking in college, and know he thinks he is the wisest man. What is the saying...with a little knowledge they can be dangerous? IMO he is playing word games, and stirring the pot continuously. But, not benefitting anyone but himself and his ego.

    I so much appreciate your patience in this matter Wassa, my respect for you has been raised a few notches. But, I see the game he is trying to play with you. And I know you have already won. You won in your first post...see how he is dragging it out?

    I ask everyone to please quit feeding Teejay...his 2 friends(the only ones I can see) have already swelled his head. Please ignore him and see how many useless threads he starts just to cause trouble, and contentions.

    He is useless here, except to stir trouble. I have no use for him. But, of course...he knows that
    wendy

    In a controversy the instant we feel anger, we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves.

  • larc
    larc

    Morning Mommy,

    How are you today. I just got up and am having my first cup of coffee. Being retired and all, I usually post late into the night and sleep til noon. I love it. But I went to bed on the early side last night. Zazu was up real early and just went back to bed for a nap, so its quiet around here right now. I had to get to the board even before reading the morning paper. Oh, did I tell you my grandson was born about a month ago? He's doing well, and now I have one each, grandaughter who is nine and a new grandson. His mouth and chin looks like Zazu's. I hope things are going well for you.

  • teejay
    teejay

    Since you are "now pregnant and very emotional," I'll cut you some slack... but did you say a little too much about yourself when you said,

    What is the saying...with a little knowledge they can be dangerous?

    Who are the "they" you mean? Keep posting wendy. You help more than you know.

    Your first thought was to "stay away"? In the future, if helping your 'cause' is your aim, go with that first thought. You stuck your foot in pretty deep this time. Extraction will take some time. And if "a few college courses" has made such a noticeable difference in me (as you suggest) why don't YOU give it a try. Not having completed one's education is no cause for boasting.

  • wasasister
    wasasister

    Hi TeeJay: I'm up early, the birds are singing outside my window, the coffee is brewing. I'm not going to keep this thread going much longer, as it has gone on way longer than I ever intended. Lest you or anyone else feels this is me "running away" from an argument, I'm not. I'm going to the ocean for the day and have a nice picnic. I feel I've fairly and calmly addressed questions directed towards me and said about all I have to say on the subject. Further bantering is just going to result in redundancy. I think I have a much better idea about you now and I hope you can say the same of me.

    You said:

    What is it you are trying to accomplish in regard to Farkel?

    If nothing else, learn from all his hard work in researching the Evil Empire, i.e. show common decency to fellow posters, like the rest of us do, and when he says something that hurts someone's feelings, that he not think he's so high and mighty, but apologize.

    Does that mean you want to learn to show common decency to fellow posters? If so, why your rude (perhaps a better word than vitriolic) comments to Tina? In light of what I read, there will be no apology for placing you in the same catagory as Scorpion and Kimberly. The obscenities may be lacking, but mean is mean. Again, Tina may have provoked you, but if you return in kind you can't expect to remain innocent. This was the point Bigboi kept on about last night, ie:

    Is it right to call one poster on improper conduct, yet ignore said conduct from posters that are your friends'?

    I don't call your conduct towards Tina "proper", no matter what or how she spoke to you.

    I also noticed in your response what seems to be a condradiction about the "Emmy Debacle" (oh, God, now I'm capitalizing it!) You congratulated AlanF and JanH for staying out of it in one breath, and then said:

    You stayed out of it for a reason which is precisely why I got into it. Evil prospers when good people do nothing.

    I don't get involved in street fights. My "fight" if you will takes place on a different field. I do plenty in my own way, but when mud is slinging and insults are flying, there is little I can accomplish other than get muddy. I AM good people and I DO get involved, just not the same way you do.

    "As far as I am able to determine", means I read all the posts, but I can't be precise as to the motives behind what everyone said, thus the qualifier.

    "Peace, I guess" has to do with the perception on my part that you rather enjoy a good fight. Therefore, I would not wish you peace if you don't want any.

    I'm going to put the beach chairs in the car now and see if I can find a corkscrew. I've already expended way more time and energy here than I ever intended to. Unless there is something substantive to add, I won't be back.

    Peace if you want it,
    Was

    PS: the last decent movie I saw this summer was Memento, a psychological thriller with many interesting twists. I highly recommend it.

  • mommy
    mommy

    Hey Larc
    Congrats on the new grandbaby! I remember reading it a few weeks ago, little babies are so precious. I can't wait to have another one, this pregnancy is definatley my favorite so far.

    I actually was in Ohio a few days ago, and thought of you and sweet Zazu. I wish I had planned ahead, we could have gotten together. I am currently living in NY. I am still trying to get settled here and find work, a house etc, etc So right now my world is turned upside down. I have been away from the board alot for the past few weeks, trying to get things straightened out.

    I had a hard time sleeping in such a strange place last night, with traffic(haven't heard that in years!) So I only had about 4 hours sleep, and awoke to a houseful of kids...my 2 and 3 other neices and a nephew. I was sipping my coffee as I wrote my post above.

    I will talk to you later my friend Give Zazu a hug for me will you? Have a great day.
    wendy

    In a controversy the instant we feel anger, we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves.

  • larc
    larc

    Hi Mommy,

    I hadn't realized that you moved to NY. As I recall you used to live there earlier on. Did you go back to be close to family? Zazu and I looked up where you used to live in NC. You were definetly out in the country. Welcome to the north. Hope our winters aren't too much for you.

    Wassa,

    I hope you have an enjoyable day. I am going out to mow the grass. I will enjoy that after being a couch potato here in from of my webtv.

  • teejay
    teejay

    To All,

    wendy's post is exemplary in that it typifies a JW mindset, and she's not even a JW. Just goes to show that some of us have not moved very far from the past--the scenery may have changed, the mindset remains.

    She referred to Was' "thoughful and insightful postings" and my "drivel" but offered not ONE example of either. JWs may speak about how great a mag or a talk is/was but cannot give a sound bite or a quote to back up their high review.

    She complimented me by saying that I was "the classic example of a hard working man" (thank you, wendy) but immediately sought to ridicule the way I provide for my family with, "truck driver I believe." So Pharisaic, so GBish, wouldn't you say? "He drives a truck, for chrissakes," she seems to be saying. "Can anything good come from a truck driver?" She continues her effort to denigrate something that is wholly proper by mentioning that I go to college. Sorry, wendy, but I'm not sorry to have enrolled in college at the tender age of 42 and no comment from you (or anyone) is going to make me regret it.

    Her most telling comment, however, the point where she REALLY told on herself (in much the same way she did with Emyrose), was when she asked, in delightfully coded language, "What is the saying...with a little knowledge they can be dangerous?" Oh, I'm sure she has an explanation for what she meant, how she was misunderstood. Skulking back to explain away her true meaning is an option, but "they" ALWAYS do that, don't "they"? We've seen it from HER in the matter of how she used the "n" word toward Emyrose, so what else is new?

    I'm not "playing word games." Far from it. I'm not "stirring the pot" ("acting uppity" in wendy-speak). Only the clueless, the total block-heads, suggest that I post here to stroke my ego, considering the general reaction and false accusations that greet my posts. My aim is quite serious, though few seem willing to see it. Or agree with it.

    Last, like any writer of a Watchtower article worth his salt, she invents what she claims is my motivation while ignoring the truth:

    She nonsensically hinted that I started this thread to "cause trouble, and contentions." Any fair person knows--from the initial post--that I had been ridiculed in another thread; a friend asked that I discontinue my participation there, but I wanted to answer those charges; I've done so here. I'm certain at the first opportunity, Ginny will respond (can't speak for the others I addressed). Of course, wendy knows all of this and rather than do the honorable thing, she plays dumb (not a stretch for some people) or prefers to cover over what she knows is true. Reminds me of the last WT I read. Well done, wendy. You've learned well.

    Sorry, but that kind of duplicity I'll never abide, either from the Society or here, from you or anyone else.

    Peace to all, whether you want it or not.

    p.s. wendy, go rent To Kill a Mockingbird. Look for a character named "Miss Maudie." Take particular note of her role during the court scene near the end of the film, the part where she is obviously lying, everyone knows it, but rallies around poor Lil' Miss Maudie (I wonder if such a thing ever happened in real life.... naahhh!!). "Miss Maudie" reminds me of you, a classic example of... well... go rent it. You'll see what I mean.

  • larc
    larc

    teejay,

    What classes are you taking this fall?

  • bigboi
    bigboi

    Hey Teejay:

    Peep this:

    Who does this remind u of;

    1. they attack your intentions
    2. they begin to completely ignore your posts,
    3. completeley change the meaning of your words
    4. focus on anything that remotely resembles your message
    thus diverting the subject and issue at hand
    is pathetically predictable. . . .

    What are these ppl doin readin from an attack posters we don't like handbook? It doesn't surprise me that Wasa would respond to you and completely miss the vitriol that spewed from Wendy's mouth. Last night she attempted to do the same with me a Kents lil exchange. Her "filters" must've been turned off.

    This is sad buddy, especially in view of the lie she told when she said she wouldn't be participating in any more of yoour thread. What do you expect from somebody who says she grew up around mostly black ppl, yet thinks it ok to call one a nigger, and also implies that all the black guys at the school she went did nothing but rape the white girls that attended. Of course she explained the true situation after being called on her deceptive implications, but why make such implications anyway? I know why the same way LDH knew why and same way she showed by her truly ignorant comment to Emmy. Wendy I feel for your children.

    ONE....

    bigboi

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