Watchtower Gives Up Explaining 607 BCE Date!

by VM44 239 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  VM44

  This is a very important observation, that The Watchtower has not tried to explain in print why 607 BCE is the year for the destruction of Jerusalem for the last 17 years!!!

  All that The Watchtower has done over most of the last two decades is to repeat over and over the year "607BCE" in its publications as if it is an unquestioned fact!

  The LAST time an explaination for the year was attempted by The Watchtower was in 1988 when the "Insight" volumes were published, but since then, no explaination for the validity of the year has appeared in print.

  This must mean something, but what? Perhaps that The Watchtower doesn't have anything new to say on the topic, or perhaps that they don't want people delving too deep in researching the dates 608/587 BCE. After all, COJ's book, The Gentile Times Reconsidered, is easily found by anyone starting to research the matter, and The Watchtower certainly does not want anyone finding out about that book!

  --VM44
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  scholar

  VM44

  Celebrated WT scholars have provided sufficient information to dispel any concerns raised by the Jonsson hypothesis in the book Gentile Times Reconsidered. The claculation of 607 is based on biblical and secular evidence and its simplicity is well presented in the publications in recent years. Apostate thinking poses no threat to our chronology as its methodology and interpretation demonstrates a loyalty to God's inspired Word.

  scholar JW
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  Smiles

  No, it displays a loyalty to the WT FDS Teaching/Writing Committees, as does all other JW teachings.
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  Jeffro

  Celebrated WT scholars have provided sufficient information to dispel any concerns raised by the Jonsson hypothesis in the book Gentile Times Reconsidered.

  "Celebrated WT scholars" LOL. It is patently obvious that the Society indeed has NOT provided sufficient information to dispel any concerns. (There's that "Jonsson hypothesis" catchphrase again, as if this nullifies the fact that the problems exist.) Even those who didn't know of the "Jonsson hypothesis" at all when they started investigating the 607 issue (such as myself) have concerns with the Society's explanations.

  Most of their publications don't even dare attempt approaching many of the issues, though in a couple they quickly gloss over some details to minimize their significance.

  The claculation of 607 is based on biblical and secular evidence and its simplicity is well presented in the publications in recent years.

  Scholar, on specifically which secular evidence is the "claculation of 607" based?

  The calculation of 607 is not at all based on any secular evidence, as there simply is NO secular evidence to support it.

  Apostate thinking poses no threat to our chronology as its methodology and interpretation demonstrates a loyalty to God's inspired Word.

  (Incorrect use of word "methodology".) The Society's interpretation is internally inconsistent and contradicts several scriptures. That does not demonstrate "loyalty to God's inspired Word."
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  Hellrider

  Celebrated WT scholars have provided sufficient information to dispel any concerns raised by the Jonsson hypothesis in the book Gentile Times Reconsidered. The claculation of 607 is based on biblical and secular evidence and its simplicity is well presented in the publications in recent years. Apostate thinking poses no threat to our chronology as its methodology and interpretation demonstrates a loyalty to God's inspired Word.

  scholar JW

  Ha ha!
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  Reefton Jack

  Scholar,

  Regarding your remarks about "celebrated WTS Scholars":

  - That is just the trouble; there is no scholarship amongst that lot!

  It begins with the principal of the New World Translation Committee (Frederick Franz) - who could not speak Hebrew, and whom only ever had a very brief tuition in Biblical (Koine) Greek - and it goes on from there.

  Which WTS "scholars" do you have in mind, and what are they "celebrated" for?

  About the only achievement that the WTS could be credited with is running an excellent book publishing empire.

  As for being accomplished bible scholars, though - I once believed that (bloody fool!) - but it proved to be one more of the cruel illusions the WTS had us believing.

  Jack.
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  gringojj

  LOL celebrates!
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  Midget-Sasquatch

  As far as I know, you've missed a couple of more recent instances where they go into that long explanation. One is in the Daniel book (pg.95-7) and the other one is in their most recent book What does the Bible Really Teach? (Appendix - pg.215-217).
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  DanTheMan

  And just who is "celebrating" them? lol

  Regarding the thread topic, the difference between the Live Forever book and the Knowledge book was so striking, the Knowledge book being so dumbed-down by comparison. This is the direction that the org has decided to go in post-Freddie Franz: dumb-down the publications and subsequently the overall religion, and continually deal the "loyalty" card from the bottom of the deck to keep the flock submissive and unquestioning.

  I feel sorry for them in a way, because, who wants to admit that they're a relic? The WTS has become like the Rolling Stones: putting out new lifeless new material but continuing to rake in millions of $$ and believing that they are still relevant, because of their adoring fan base, not because they are innovative or vital in any way.
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  IT Support

  WT's explanation / justification is that the Bible says Jerusalem would be devastated for 70 years, so 537 + 70 = 607.

  If you are a JW, you accept they are God's channel of communication, in which case you accept the 607 date, irrespective of what any 'worldly' scholars may produce in evidence.

  It always comes back to mind control...