The Bible...trust in Faith or trust in Fact? (page 16)

Cygnus

LT, my old JW friend from AOL, who is also registered here but rarely posts, Alf3831, would say you are a Burger King Christian -- you want to have it put together and "have it your way." hehehe

That said, jokingly, you're cool and okay in my book.

LittleToe

ShiningOne:

It was a response to your following comment:

You must remember, so much of the Bible is written with our understanding in mind, so anthromorphisms are always present in scripture.

Are you suggesting that God puts things in a false way to make a point?

On an aside, I'd suggest you read carefully the comments that Narkissos and Leo make concerning the scriiptures. Though you may disagree with the manner in which they dissect them, you'll have difficulty disagreeing with the fact that they truly love them.

Cygnus:
If it's the Alf that I exchanged posts with, I recall him.

While self-confessedly I am a little eclectic, in what manner are you suggesting that I "want it my way" (which is more analogous to an "ole Blue eyes" Christian, incidentally)?

Cygnus

Dude, I didn't suggest it, I said Alf probably would. I dunno about your past affiliation and correspondence with him.

Shining One

Little Toe,
Perhaps I have a wrong word definition. I am talking about scripture describing the cosmos, God or other difficult concepts in human terms for our better understanding. I am seeing your point more and more about Narkissos and Leolaia. Its too bad that I so often jump to conclusions.
Rex

Caedes

1) I draw from scripture, viz. "In the beginning..." Genesis 1.1 and "In the beginning the Word" John 1.1.

2) Similiar scripture that applies (without getting down to specifics).

3) Attributes necessary for the concept of an Almighty God as described Biblically.

>It seems others in their posts have taken great care, choosing their words carefully, backing up their ideas with sound well rounded reasoning. Can I ask, is this, your quote (which is written as a statement of fact) a conclusion you've drawn yourself? Is it something you've read somewhere? I can't understand how you can be so unequivocal?

It is my conclusion. I might add though, you seem to know the lingo around here and I do hope you are not a troll (someone already here who has a screen name).

1) Doesn't answer a direct question, quotes two biblical passages well known to probably 99.9% of the posters here - how helpful.

2) Can't answer the question, Shining one, perhaps you could have asked mash to rephrase the question if you didn't understand it. If you did understand it then please have a go at being specific, there's a first time for everything.

3) Stuff i've made up because it suits me.

4) Finally half an answer, well alright quarter of an answer and a poor attempt at sarcasm.

MAS*H

Hi all

Thanks for the warm welcome! jgnat to show off my generous nature, I'd like you to have this... ... no really, you must, really it was nothing...

Shining One: I really like the idea of being a troll, it sounds fun. Does it mean I can dress up before I post like in DnD? Perhaps being a troll will give my posts that extra edge - you know like Strength + 6, although I fear I may have to suffer an Intelligence -20 penalty. I can see from your last post that you also enjoy being a troll. I'd like to just clarify some what you've said...

1) I draw from scripture, viz. "In the beginning..." Genesis 1.1 and "In the beginning the Word" John 1.1.

So point one proves you first irrefutable fact - "God exists outside of this timeline since time itself is a part of creation.".

2) Similiar scripture that applies (without getting down to specifics).

Then, the old 'similiar scripture' moves on to confirm undeniably "God resides in eternity and He sees all, past, present and future (to us)."

3) Attributes necessary for the concept of an Almighty God as described Biblically.

I think I'm keeping up with this... point three probably covers quite nicely the "At death the soul goes to the realm of that existence, therefore (from a eternal perspective) all souls return and reside in eternity".

I mean, now that you've explained your reasoning, it's clear I was wrong in ever questioning (in my Trollish fashion) the absolute clarity of your previous post. Oh, I think I've just had an Troll Epiphany + 2, I now fully understand how all this fits into place, wow it's amazing... oh, wait, erm, no... no... sorry... hang on... urm... - it's was just gas, in more ways than one.

M*A*S*H - Trollsville, Third Hut on the Right.

LittleToe

Rex:There's a good bunch of guys, on this board. Having left the WTS most find that judgementalism and dogmatism sticks in their throats, though. If you can avoid even a hint of those two things in your debates you'll probably find things are a lot less volatile and the debates more instructive to all.

I understand what you're saying about the way the bible relates things. In all honesty we've evolved a great deal culturally and linguistically, since those days, and I have little doubt that the same events would be recorded differently today. They'd make use of current scientific jargon, for starters, instead of talking about livestock. Can you imagine Jesus relating to a group of New York city kids using parables about sheep-herders? Just aint gonna happen

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